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Posted June 12, 2017 - 12:27 AM

Found this locally on CL tonight.  I paid $50 for it and would like to put it in my Cub 149 w/fel.  It came out of a Bobcat skid steer.  The PO said it ran fine but he wanted a HF motor instead in his Bobcat (Don't ask me why!!!  He was a nice guy but didn't really know anything about engines).  I figured at the least I have an engine I can rebuild.  It still has compression and has a starter motor( in pieces) and not the typical start/generator that the Cubs have.  It looks a lot taller then my K301(In my Cub 149) 12 hp or the K321(in pieces original to the 149) 14 hp..  I know these engines have a much longer stroke then the 12 and 14 hp kohlers which might explain why it looks taller.  Tomorrow I will look at it more closely and figure out what it would take to make it work.  Here are some pictures

 

 

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Posted June 12, 2017 - 04:53 AM

Nice score on that!


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Posted June 12, 2017 - 05:19 AM

Good deal...strange looking carb on that. Just the air filter housing I guess. The 16 hp may be slightly taller, never measured mine against the others. It does have a larger head with more head bolts. 


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Posted June 12, 2017 - 06:13 AM

only issue I see with it,  is it don't have the narrow Cub style base/ but even at that, I wish I could find a 16 like that at a fair price... around here basket cases in pieces (and not all there either) advertise for $200.... no way! whether even rebuildable is even questionable either....

might want to unbolt the base and see if it is drilled for the narrow sump. some were drilled for both.


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Posted June 12, 2017 - 06:34 AM

A bigger engine in a loader tractor is a total waste, you could run a loader on a 7hp tractor with no problem. The pulling tractor guys go crazy for those 16's so if I were you I'd flip it and make some cash.
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Posted June 12, 2017 - 07:02 AM

 The PO said it ran fine but he wanted a HF motor instead in his Bobcat (Don't ask me why!!!  He was a nice guy but didn't really know anything about engines).  

 

 

My guess is if it ran fine he would not be wanting a cheap chinese engine. Don't take his word on anything as you stated above "he didn't know anything about engines".

 

I also hate the key words or aka lawyer answers that start with ..."to the best of my knowledge" 


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Posted June 12, 2017 - 07:03 AM

Why do people think they have to go bigger and faster all the time?  Just tear stuff up quicker is all.


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Posted June 12, 2017 - 09:36 AM

only issue I see with it,  is it don't have the narrow Cub style base/ but even at that, I wish I could find a 16 like that at a fair price... around here basket cases in pieces (and not all there either) advertise for $200.... no way! whether even rebuildable is even questionable either....

might want to unbolt the base and see if it is drilled for the narrow sump. some were drilled for both.

I know the Cub part number for the oil pan is the same for the 14 hp and the 16 hp (and probably the same for the 10 and 12 hp motors) but I didn't know that the engine blocks needed to be drilled for the cub pan.  I was planning on removing the pan to remove the balance gears and look over the internals so see what kind of shape they are in.  I have another cub oil pan l can use to see if it will work.  Thanks for the information!



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Posted June 12, 2017 - 09:43 AM

Why do people think they have to go bigger and faster all the time?  Just tear stuff up quicker is all.

It's called freedom!  :D

 

The Cub cadet models for 1973 were the 129,149, and 169.  The first two numbers indicate horse power.  If Cub made a model with the 16 hp motor it won't hurt the tractor by installing a motor that it was engineered to run with! :poke:  :smilewink:



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Posted June 12, 2017 - 09:50 AM

A bigger engine in a loader tractor is a total waste, you could run a loader on a 7hp tractor with no problem. The pulling tractor guys go crazy for those 16's so if I were you I'd flip it and make some cash.


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Posted June 12, 2017 - 09:54 AM

The op never said that he put a bigger motor in, but as he admitted he knows nothing about engines cuz if he did then he wouldn't be making that mistake....
(That being replacing a Kohler with a HF POS) but yeah if it runs ot not you stole it. My question is that if the seller knew nothing about engines then who put the HF POS into his machine?

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Posted June 12, 2017 - 10:03 AM

My guess is if it ran fine he would not be wanting a cheap chinese engine. Don't take his word on anything as you stated above "he didn't know anything about engines".

 

I also hate the key words or aka lawyer answers that start with ..."to the best of my knowledge" 

I never take any bodies word on anything, especially tractors!  The block doesn't have a window in it and it still has compression so at a minimum it's should be good to rebuild. 

One thing I did notice is the throttle shaft on the carb is very worn.  That would make it run terrible at idle.  The PO only used the Bobcat to move hay around in his barn.  He only uses it 4 month out of the year because he goes to Arizona for the winter.



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Posted June 12, 2017 - 10:18 AM

A bigger engine in a loader tractor is a total waste, you could run a loader on a 7hp tractor with no problem. The pulling tractor guys go crazy for those 16's so if I were you I'd flip it and make some cash.


You quoted my post but didn't say anything.

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Posted June 12, 2017 - 12:10 PM

A bigger engine in a loader tractor is a total waste, you could run a loader on a 7hp tractor with no problem. The pulling tractor guys go crazy for those 16's so if I were you I'd flip it and make some cash.


I dissagree. I can't wait to swap my loader from my 14 over to my 20.
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Posted June 12, 2017 - 12:11 PM

Found this locally on CL tonight.  I paid $50 for it and would like to put it in my Cub 149 w/fel.  It came out of a Bobcat skid steer.  The PO said it ran fine but he wanted a HF motor instead in his Bobcat (Don't ask me why!!!  He was a nice guy but didn't really know anything about engines).  I figured at the least I have an engine I can rebuild.  It still has compression and has a starter motor( in pieces) and not the typical start/generator that the Cubs have.  It looks a lot taller then my K301(In my Cub 149) 12 hp or the K321(in pieces original to the 149) 14 hp..  I know these engines have a much longer stroke then the 12 and 14 hp kohlers which might explain why it looks taller.  Tomorrow I will look at it more closely and figure out what it would take to make it work.  Here are some pictures


Great score!!
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