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#1 archer OFFLINE  

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Posted May 15, 2017 - 12:06 PM

I just purchased this 1650 and have a few questions. It doesn't appear to have a cooling fan by the hydro. There is a snap ring back there on the yoke area but can't figure out where it should clip. Can I run tractor without fan. How do I pull the shaft if I have to install one? Looks like I might need a donor tractor, as the ears where the arms mount are missing one on each side. It came with a tiller that didn't turn but I freed it up. Also have a plow, front blade and snow blower. I need to replace bearings on drive pulled of snow blower. The motor had wrong coil on it when I bought it but I have it purring now. Any help would be appreciated. I will try to figure out how to post pics.

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Posted May 15, 2017 - 01:05 PM

Welcome to GTT. I don't remember who made the White brand. Post some pics so that we can see. It is probably a Jacosen built so this parts manual may cover it http://gardentractor...s-125014501650/

You can look through the Manuals Section for free downloads but you are limited to a few per day. Good Luck, Rick
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Posted May 15, 2017 - 01:21 PM

My White 1855 is a mTD 995.  18hp twin briggs, 55" deck.  hydro.

I sent you some manuals for interest  too.

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Posted May 15, 2017 - 01:28 PM

White used to MM garden tractors.  Changed to White when MTD purchased the MM outdoor garden group.  Later the White name was dropped all together.  Good strong built tractors.


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Posted May 15, 2017 - 02:40 PM

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Posted May 15, 2017 - 03:47 PM

I believe the white gt 1650 is a MTD 990 which is why I posted here. The 990 has a cooling fan so I assumed the white should also. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks for the replies. Still haven't figured out how to attach photos. My profile pic is of tractor in question

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Posted May 15, 2017 - 07:01 PM

Think I figured out how to attach photos. This is the yoke where I believe I mount the fan. But not sure what that snap ring clips to (dont see a channel for the clip) or what retains the fan blade.

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Posted May 15, 2017 - 07:09 PM

Yes, the 1650 is an MTD 990 variant. The clip went on the outside of the plastic fan blade. It was basically a compression ring as the fan had no groove for it on either of my 990s. Not sure about availability. They used to be available but I haven't heard anything lately?
On mine, I got lucky and the center drive shaft slid forward and back into the front and rear yokes when I loosened the set screws holding it in place. Both yokes came right off the engine output shaft and the hydro input shaft.

Nice White by the way ;-)
Member Halfscale has a killer collection of the MTD Whites and can answer any question you might have.

Edited by Canawler, May 15, 2017 - 07:15 PM.

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Posted May 16, 2017 - 02:36 AM

Jim is spot on , you'll have to get your drive shaft to slide off to get a new fan on.Its hard to find nice used ones, they always seemed to be Crackeducated.
White purchased Oliver in 60, Cockshutt in 62 and Moline in 63. White outdoor equipment was formed in 70 ( reason for the blue town and country ) White dropped Jacobsen in 73 and went with MTD.
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Posted May 16, 2017 - 07:32 AM

The part number listed in the manual is still good. MTD 731-0317 or the replacement number MTD 931-0317. Found as low as $18.00


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Posted May 16, 2017 - 09:18 AM

Looks like quite a few tractors used that fan, probably a good idea to pick up a spare since I have a few, one day it will be discontinued.
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Posted May 16, 2017 - 04:50 PM

All great info. Thanks all of you.

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Posted May 30, 2017 - 07:01 PM

Hey archer, you referenced the three point mounting tabs on the axles being broke off if I read that right...? My 1650 was that way when I bought it too (no idea why they do that) but I discovered the axle tubes from an LGT 145 were the same and was able to swap them. The ones I used came from a closed-side tractor but maybe the open-side ones are the same? Just a thought, might make it easier to find those parts...

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Posted May 30, 2017 - 07:24 PM

Before I changed out the axle tubes I would mount the arms to the frame like my 960 and 999 are attached. Just drill a couple of holes and install cat 0 pins for the arms. Item 46 below.

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Posted June 02, 2017 - 07:28 AM

Thanks for the great ideas. I probably wont worry about it just yet as i apparently caught this tractor bug and bought another 990 with good mounts,

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