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Posted June 02, 2017 - 01:39 AM

Simplicity tractors 40-47,pic (1) 1hp B,(2) 2hp C,(3) 3hp C,(4) 1 1/2hp B,(5)(Mike Unwin)1 1/2hp B,(6)(Gwest)1 1/2hp D(48),(7) early B platform,(8) late B platform. The 1hp B will have a po-go handlebar from 40-42,standard bars in 43 and i believe it becomes unstyled in 44 like the B in the 4th pic of a 45(I'll explain my guess for 44 with the Hoe-Trac),the 47 B in the 5th pic and the 48 D in the 6th pic are the same tractor except for the transmission,1 speed for the B and 4 speed for the D(this will also apply to the Hoe-Trac),if the 2hp C(2nd pic) was made in 43(pic said 43) then it was probably made in 40 so I'm giving it a 40-43 time span (possibly to 45)and the 3hp C (3rd pic)gets a time span of 40-45,I do not see evidence of the C platform past 45(for simplicity),the early B platform (7th pic)runs 37-42 and the late B platform runs 43-47,the late B platform gets the patient no. in 45,the model A(Culti-cutter)will be covered with the Culti-Mower in the 41 tractors,I have reliably heard of a po-go simplicity so if I can keep this thread from catching on fire we may see one of these rare birds at a later date.

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Posted June 02, 2017 - 04:57 AM

With so many engine and models choices , were the attachments interchangable much ?
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Posted June 03, 2017 - 12:48 AM

Hi Alc,there is sharing of implement's between hp but only on like platforms on the early tractors,mainly the B with 3/4,1,1 1/2 and 2hp,the 2 and 3hp C's would share rear implement's,the first shared implement's between platform's happens in 43 when the B gets the front quick hitch from the A,there is a want for forward implement's on a bigger platform as evidenced by the 2hp C but it is not quick hitch and it's implement's are 2hp spacific,the 48 plow-Trac(Waterbury) below is the answer for more hp. and sharing of implement's,

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Posted June 08, 2017 - 01:43 AM

The 1940 tractors,pic (1),Hoe-Trac,3hp plow-Trac,5hp plow-Trac,(4&5)Cult-Mate,(6&7)Plow-Mate. The Hoe-Trac I believe gets the RSC in 40,M/W wants a uniform engine power rateing(seen in the 38 engine chart) and the RLC doesn't fit at 1hp,my thinking is M/W dumped it's excess RLC stock on the 39 Hoe-Trac,it is just a reved up styled 38 power cultivator and M/W has decided the B platform will be 1hp,the tractor and post in pics 2&3 show the change to the RSC, The 3&5hp plow-Trac's do not change,they are correctly designed for the implement's they will run from the start, The BMB tractors(4,5,6&7)get new hood's and whatever engine's are available,B&S,JAP & BSA seem to be most prevalent,from here these tractors will change little with engine choice determining differences within like models(4&5),they also don't appear to carry much in the way of body tags so dating would have to be done with engine's,a rough date can be had with old hood-new hood and old grill-new grill

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Posted June 08, 2017 - 05:22 AM

In picture #3  " B Hoe Mate " is the shaft just for a starting crank or did have some kind of drive along with it , maybe flat belt ?


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Posted June 08, 2017 - 09:01 AM

Hi Alc,it is for rope start,the pic below shows the axillary PTO pulley for the Cult-Mate,the Cult-Mate in the 4th pic would be crank handle start,I should mention their is miss-identified and miss-information on these tractors just like this side of the pond (the 2-A in the 39 Hoe-Mate would be another example) and I have to call it as I see it

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Posted June 15, 2017 - 09:12 PM

The 1941 tractors,Culti-Mower,Hoe-Trac,3hp Plow-Trac,5hp Plow-Trac,Plow-Mate(pics 2- 5) and Cult-Mate(pic 6). It's time to say by to the 5hp Plow-Trac in the D platform so I'll be starting from the top down,I do not see any evidence of the 5hp Plow-Trac past 41 stateside but it is going to live on as the BMB plow-mate well into the 50s,in the 2nd pic is a low production rider,pics 3-5 show the styling progression from prewar,postwar and late 40's-50s,now I'm in the 41s it's time for a correction on a earlier mistake(I'm sure there'll be more as time goes by lol),the RLC 4 bolt comes out in 41 not 42 on the Culti-Mower,also i stated the TLC was in the 2hp Plow-Trac but I'm not so sure,M/W was supplying Lauson and Wisconsin engine's for it's tractors and the AA is the right hp but i think the engine is most likely a Briggs as I see a Briggs on another M/W tractor in the time line and the breather looks Briggs to me the more i look at it

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Posted June 16, 2017 - 05:30 AM

At first glance that rider looked homemade ,, ok even staring at it,  it looks homemade lol . I wonder how hard the Culti-Mower was to control ?


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Posted June 17, 2017 - 12:40 AM

Hi Alc,I thought it was homemade too,I did find some that were homemade that looked pretty good,I thought BMB made a rider out of the Plow-Mate when I saw the red tractor below but couldn't make the call having seen some slick conversions of the anzani Iron Horse,the build and evolution of this red tractor is posted, and running it probably sounds like an older mean green,the last pic is my wimpy excuse for slow posting

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Posted June 17, 2017 - 01:59 AM

I wonder how hard the Culti-Mower was to control ?

it would have been harder to control then outher one wheeled tractors because of the front wheel,you would have to raise the cultivator for turns and forward implement's would have a hard time in softer soils with the small front wheel carrying the extra weight so i imagine mowing would require some occasional leaning on the handlebars,the one wheeled design is for tighter rows so the tradeoff is ease of operation
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Posted July 13, 2017 - 01:21 AM

3hp Plow-Trac,Cult-Mate. 41 is the last year for the flying yellow V over blue paint scheme (pic 1),42 brings a color change and 1 less Louver on the 3hp Plow-Trac side panel (2)(Columbia 236),like the Simplicity C I have not found any evidence of the 3hp plow-Trac past 45(3),the C platform does live on in the BMB Cult-Mate(4-6), unlike the Hoe-Mate and Plow-Mate the Cult-Mate retains it's pre and post war grill into the 50s(7)1954),the C and D platform's have the longest continuous production runs of the time line tractors starting in 37 and ending most likely in 56 when the company was sold,surplus stock of the BMB riding tractor (President) was rebadged and sold until 60 so it is possible any surplus Simplicity stock left over after the sale could have went this route

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Posted September 27, 2017 - 12:23 AM

Hoe-trac, Hoe-mate. There is a lot to say about the Hoe-Trac so I'm going to to run out the Hoe-Mate first,it's time for another correction, in my reply to alc on the Culti-Mower the statement should read "with out the small front wheel", the Hoe-Mate comes back in 47 (pics 1 and 2), it is a big improvement over the 39 Hoe-Mate (4) with fixed handlebars, new hood and return of a four cycle engine but basically besides the handlebars it is the 38 B export (5) with a hood, it will not get the 2nd generation B platform with the quick hitch (3), my guess is that it gets the horizontal grill bar(3) in 48 because as near as i can tell that is when the Plow-Mate gets its new grill

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Posted September 27, 2017 - 05:24 AM

I was looking at the last picture of the one with iron wheels and was wondering if since both wheel lugs pointed in the same direction it would have made the tractor pull to the one side ?


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Posted September 27, 2017 - 07:26 AM

I was looking at the last picture of the one with iron wheels and was wondering if since both wheel lugs pointed in the same direction it would have made the tractor pull to the one side ?

 

I don't think so, Al. I've got a similar unit with the same wheels and I've never noticed it causing a pull. I've never actually worked it in dirt though, just running it around.


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Posted October 30, 2017 - 07:09 PM

Hoe-Trac 41-43. The 41 hoe-Trac(pic 1) is the 40 Hoe-Trac and other than paint the 42(2-3)(talentedmrgreen) is too, you have to look close but the outline of the 43's paint scheme (4)(doug T) can be seen, Simplicity is replacing the generation 1 B platform with the generation 2 B platform with the A platform's quick hitch in 43, the 43 Hoe-Trac with a heavier gear case, new hub's and frame looks to be the end of the Lauson on this platform, the gen. 1 B has been replaced but it is far from forgotten and another Simplicity story has emerged that will drag me once again outside the time line

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