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Posted April 26, 2017 - 04:48 PM

Hi , I could use some help.I have a 1963 Jim Dandy with briggs engine.It is pull start and I`m trying to convert it to electric start. The existing clutch/Flywheel has 2 v notches that are too far back to line up with starter/Gen pulley.

I have seen pictures of other tractors with starter/generator set up and they appear to have a larger size pulley

Is it safe to say I need another Clutch/Flywheel ? or another pulley?Where might I find one? Thanks John



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Posted April 26, 2017 - 06:46 PM

John, that larger pulley is machined in the center to slide over the flywheel hub. The pulley is then secured in place with set screws. I just built a PK using one of these starter/pulley assemblies. I picked up my assembly from someone who was parting out a Jim Dandy. I don't know where you could find one of these pulleys, but someone may have one kicking around. I made my own starter generator mount and belt tensioner.
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Posted April 26, 2017 - 06:51 PM

There's the pulley next to the flywheel.

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 05:17 AM

Welcome to GTTalk !   In a pile of PK parts  that came with a tractor I bought long time ago was a pulley like what classic posted . I'm not sure if I still have it but will check and if I do will get a size for you


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Posted April 27, 2017 - 07:31 AM

Thanks everyone ! That clears my problem up .Classic does it just slip over existing sheave? No key way?  Any help is appreciated..Should I post somewhere else for Part wanted? Now the tough part...Finding it.. Let me know if you find it A/c Thanks


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Posted April 27, 2017 - 10:37 AM

You're welcome. The pulley just slips over the sheave and there is no key way. It's a very close fit between the two, and mine seems to be holding up fine.
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Posted April 27, 2017 - 11:48 AM

Thank you ! Now all I have to do is find sheave.



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Posted April 27, 2017 - 01:12 PM

You're welcome. I'm also using a small sheave on my starter generator. This makes for easy starting and spins the generator faster while running.

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 03:20 PM

Is this what you need 3" id 7 1/4" od

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 06:08 PM

Alc it sure looks like it from what I can tell.. 3"od with rust !! 3 allens to lock it ? Willing to part with it ? Thanks

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 06:11 PM

Classic does 7" 1/4 " seem right ? Also what size pulley are you using on starter? Thanks

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 07:02 PM

I' won't need it let's see if it's the correct one for you

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 07:38 PM

Alc Thats it.I downloaded 12 volt electric starter manual.It showsE4-16A Sheave starter (mounts on F-38 or F-3c which would be according to photo, my existing sheave.My existing sheave measures 3"with rust built up so 3" id sounds right.The manual shows the Od to be 7 1/8" It looks identical to the pics I have found online and to the one Classic posted .Im quite confident thats it.I also noted the allens for retaining it to my existing sheave.

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 08:00 PM

I bought my flywheel and sheave together, so I'm not sure if the one alc has will work. It seems like the bore overall diameter of the sheave are correct, though. The pulley on my starter generator came from a Cub Cadet "Original" tractor. I've seen both the smaller and larger starter generator pulleys used on the PK's.

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Posted April 27, 2017 - 08:42 PM

Thanks Classic, yes that pulley Alc has looks like the one I need.Measures out to all the info I can find. The tractors came with the smaller one of the two you have,then for the electric start option the larger pulley in your picture was instslled onto the existing they changed its size a few times but in 62 it went up to 7 1/8 od.I found the "electric start manual " in this group. I will have to see how the pulley on my starter works.Its the original.Thanks for all your help.You dialed me in!!

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