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Posted April 18, 2017 - 04:46 PM

Well, after 49  years Charlie ( our 1968 Sears Custom 10 XL0 has said it's time for the starter motor to go bad. I know they are a Techumse motor but I have no idea what the part number for the starter motor is. I have misplaced our manual for it and can't locate it just yet. 

It may be just the bendix is dry or gone bad. The starter motor runs but doesn't engage all the time. Plus it sounds really bad. LOL!

 I had to replace the fuel pump a few years ago with a B&S pump and haven't had any problems since we got it in form the wife's old home after her mom passed.  Will have to keep looking for it and then hope we can find the parts to keep him running. 

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Posted April 18, 2017 - 05:02 PM

I found the manual but it does not list the model # for the motor . It sort of does but it is the Sears number not Techumse number. I can't find a number on the motor to look it up. If any of you would know the model number or starter number I would appreciate it. Thanks.                                                Roger



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Posted April 18, 2017 - 05:09 PM

There is a pinned thread with a interchange guide that might help

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Posted April 18, 2017 - 05:15 PM

There is a pinned thread with a interchange guide that might help

How would I find that thread? Thanks


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Posted April 18, 2017 - 05:16 PM

Oh and by the way I misspoke on Charlie's age. He is a 1972 model not a 1968. I found the original sales receipt in my FILs file for the tractor. Roger 


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Posted April 18, 2017 - 06:19 PM

You should be able to get a starter  rebuilding kit from one of our sponsors. Download the rebuilding manual from our Manuals Section. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted April 18, 2017 - 06:57 PM

Are you sure its not just the screw or gear thats bad, that would be a lot cheaper than a rebuild kit


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Posted April 18, 2017 - 08:40 PM

Oh thank goodness it's not that old lol. Is your starter the Square one or the Round one? I think they started using the square starters around 1975-76 but I'm not 100% sure.

 

Here's a Cheap round starter that was recently rebuilt. $20 + $15 shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/...bQAAOSw~CFY7AON

 

Square starters are $40-50 on ebay.


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Posted April 18, 2017 - 08:46 PM

Oh thank goodness it's not that old lol. Is your starter the Square one or the Round one? I think they started using the square starters around 1975-76 but I'm not 100% sure.

 

Here's a Cheap round starter that was recently rebuilt. $20 + $15 shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/...bQAAOSw~CFY7AON

 

Square starters are $40-50 on ebay.

my 73 has a square starter, and i had a 72 that did as well


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Posted April 18, 2017 - 09:05 PM

An electric motor repair shop can probably fix you right up.  I had one rebuilt for $35 - new bushings, lubed, etc. 


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Posted April 18, 2017 - 10:16 PM

Going to tear it apart tomorrow. Had things to get to tonight. Supposed to rain tomorrow so I can get in the garage and look it over. It may only be the bendix is bad or dry. I'll get some pictures and such tomorrow and let you all know. thanks for the help it is greatly appreciated. The engine on this is one that I don't have a lot of experience with. Thanks again.                                                                                                                                   Roger 



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Posted April 19, 2017 - 04:44 AM

How would I find that thread? Thanks

The thread is here.

 

Since you say it's a 1972, I uploaded the OM/PM for it. The engine model # is 143.629012. Use the interchange guide to cross to Tech #'s.


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Posted April 19, 2017 - 09:59 AM

Found the rating tag on the motor, it's a 143-619012  ser #0338E,  It has the round starter motor. That's as far as I have gotten so far. More later. Thanks.

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Posted April 19, 2017 - 12:29 PM

Well there is some good and bad news on Charlie's starter. Good news is the starter is working good. Bendix needs a little grease, minimal but a little. Main problem seems to be a missing bolt that holds the starter on. Bottom bolt to be exact. Now the bad news...... the upper bolt flange ear has broken off!!  I know that cast metal can be welded but it may be a little out of my realm to do so. I have neighbor who welds but he is elderly and doesn't like to take up projects that are not his. There is a large welding shop south of me about 30 miles and I think that is my only option. Took some pictures of the problem. Going to try to get a hold of the Almost Heaven Garden Tractor Salvage Yard in Indiana and see if they have a starter or parts for it. If not I may have to wing it and see if I can make something work. 

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Posted April 19, 2017 - 01:19 PM

So I looked at the one EricfromPA showed and went ahead and bought it. It has the same number on it. Even if it doesn't run I can use the mounting flange for mine. Supposed to be here Monday the 24th or 25th. We will see. Thanks guys for all the help. Been a long time since I worked on a Tecumseh. I am going to take the old one to the welding shop to see if they can weld it. They said it would take a couple of weeks to get done because they are so busy now. I have had them do other work for me in the past and they were great. They guarantee their welding and stand behind their work. 

charliestarter2.PNG This is the one I bought. Thanks again.                                                  Roger


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