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#1 tater195 OFFLINE  

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Posted April 03, 2017 - 06:39 PM

I have a 917287140 gold Craftsman rider I am trying to fix the sloppy steering on. I have the top bushings ordered and started taking it apart tonight. Steering wheel and the top of the tower came off easy. The problem is the 6" shaft extension is bigger than where the bushing rides and I am not sure how to remove it. The part #s are 196075 on the extension and 430471 on the shaft. I cant get a good pic of either part to find out if it is threaded. It looks like it is, but I cant get the crazy thing unscrewed with 2 pipe wrenches and I am making a mess of it. I am soaking it in home brew and would like to put some heat on it, but it is right next to the fuel tank, so open flame is not my first choice. Any ideas?

 

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Posted April 03, 2017 - 06:49 PM

Was there a small bolt through the shaft? If not bet it's pressed together. Think the whole shaft is held with two bolts on bottom.


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Posted April 03, 2017 - 07:19 PM

this one has a gear on the end and the shaft drops out the bottom when retainer pin and extension are removed. no bolts or set screws on extension. I wouldnt want it coming loose while driving. It may be installed with heavy duty loc-tite or some kind of JB weld stuff. I can get it off with a grinder, but dont want to have to spend another $25 on this due to it being a flipper. I already have close to $100 in parts on this one. It looks like the guy put the blades on upside down and busted the lift off of both blades. They were way past over sharpened and needed replaced anyway. 



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Posted April 03, 2017 - 07:21 PM

this one has a gear on the end and the shaft drops out the bottom when retainer pin and extension are removed. no bolts or set screws on extension. I wouldnt want it coming loose while driving. It may be installed with heavy duty loc-tite or some kind of JB weld stuff. I can get it off with a grinder, but dont want to have to spend another $25 on this due to it being a flipper. I already have close to $100 in parts on this one. It looks like the guy put the blades on upside down and busted the lift off of both blades. They were way past over sharpened and needed replaced anyway.


I hear you on spending on flips. Last one we had had the bolts on bottom. Don't think we ever saw this type yet.
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Posted April 03, 2017 - 07:40 PM

20 hp single and 46" deck. It looks and runs good. I cleaned the carb, adjusted the valves, new plug, oil and filter, air filter, deck belt, blades and steering bushings. right now I am at $450 for break even and anything above that pays for labor. These are listed at $650 around here for the worn out units. Not sure if I can push the limit for a good quality lt


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Posted April 03, 2017 - 09:43 PM

Bet there is a "C" clip on it.

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Posted April 04, 2017 - 05:42 AM

I went to Sears parts and it shows the extension at the top of the shaft.

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Posted April 04, 2017 - 07:30 AM

This is the part I need to remove...

 

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Posted April 04, 2017 - 08:09 AM

That is part 71 in the pic above then? Hard to tell by the pic, but looks threaded. May have Locktite on it.


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Posted April 04, 2017 - 08:45 AM

Boy, that stumps me. Looking at the picture and diagram, I agree it may be threaded, but this wouldn't make since. It would seem to need to be slotted to prevent coming loose. It looks to be crimped at the bottom. Is there a roll pin possibly holding the two shafts together?



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Posted April 04, 2017 - 09:00 AM

The "crimp" was damage from the pipe wrench. The thought was maybe a good squeeze from a pipe wrench may crack loose any rust or loc-tite that is binding it up. It may have just made it tighter.


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Posted April 04, 2017 - 10:26 AM

Hate to say, but have you checked searsparts to see if that top section is available? If so, you may need to order it (along with the needed bushings). Once you have the part in-hand, you may be able to use a die grinder to cut a couple slots in the top section to get it off.


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Posted April 04, 2017 - 11:32 AM

Sears has the part $14 and $10 shipping. It unscrews so it cant be that hard.. right?



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Posted April 04, 2017 - 12:14 PM

This is the best pic I can find of the parts but still cant tell for sure if the extension screws on. 

 

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Posted April 04, 2017 - 04:40 PM

I got it off. I had to pull the fuel tank and the lower bearing to get it figured out. I put it in a vice with a 2 foot pipe wrench. I couldnt get the vice to hold it from turning, so I gave it a few good whacks with a 5 pound hammer to loosen it up.... and it fell off :wallbanging: . not threaded at all, its kind of a bastard spline thing. Now I need to get the grinder out and clean up my mess.

 

I even called sears to verify if it was threaded. the online chat was no help, they had me call a numbers and talk to a non english speaking person, only to find out it was to schedule some one to come out and take a look at it.... back to the online chat. The next guy didnt have a clue and I hung up on him after he told me what I already knew 1 too many times. I find as I am getting older that i have a lower tolerance for stupid people


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