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Posted February 28, 2017 - 03:58 PM

By how much work you can actually do with only 11hp. I used to kind of scoff (and pass up) deals on machines with less then 15 or 16hp. I was also worried about how my G9 (if i ever get to it) would perform menial tasks with only 8.

But this winter i used my little MTD 860 with an 11hp briggs to push snow. With chains and weight on it i literally could push piles of heavy wet stuff that i figured would be way to much. But it never missed a beat.

I know, kind of a redundent post, but thought id share.
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Posted February 28, 2017 - 04:05 PM

Glad the machine worked above your expectations!


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Posted February 28, 2017 - 04:41 PM

It's not so much the HP , my uncle pointed out to me one day , it is how it uses it.

The DB Suburban with it's little 5.75 HP 14 CI B&S transfers that to the wheels in fine fashion , it will push a full blade of heavy snow .

Yes bigger may be faster and more efficient , but it is still better than shoveling :D

And kinda fun !


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Posted February 28, 2017 - 05:14 PM

Kenny i was flat out shocked what it would do, so much im thinking of selling my snowblower and using the tractor as my primary snow removal device.

MGP it definatly beats shoveling, and it is fun, you almost forget youre freezing your ass off :)
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Posted February 28, 2017 - 05:17 PM

'Almost' :smilewink:  If you told me I would only have to use it 2 times by the end of Feb. this year I would have laughed in your face. !


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Posted February 28, 2017 - 05:37 PM

You don't live where I do. Heavy wet snow in my parts is impossible to move with my mf14. Has snow plow, 26" tires, chains and weight. Any thing over 6" of wet snow, ya may as well leave it in the garage and get the blower out.

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Posted February 28, 2017 - 05:55 PM

Blade is only way for me. I have had MTD 990's and yes they can push/pull! Even when you Don't want them too, like if they take off while working on them and try to climb nearest obstacle, heh!  (another story)    All those big metal Power Kings are mostly 9 for older and 14 for newer ones and have no power problems. Think it is all in the gearing and those Big Bull Gears on back being pushed by that little pinion gear on them.  Remember 8 hp used to be some of Biggest tractors and things not that long ago!


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Posted February 28, 2017 - 06:47 PM

Ive got a 990, or something similar, (its bodied like a late 70s 990 but only has a 11hp with a 4sp, yard man branded) sitting in my parents barn, i am really looking forward to see what that thing will do.
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Posted February 28, 2017 - 09:00 PM

It's all about torque and gear reduction. Heck, the old Gibson tractors had a 6hp Wisconsin AEH on them. My 9hp PK will pull a heavy load of wet oak with no problems. I do have to drop down to 1st gear to climb hills with a full load, but the tires will break loose before the engine bogs. The engine does work hard when climbing hills loaded, but it does it just fine. Many people don't have the governors and carbs on their machines dialed in just right. Everything needs to be in order mechanically for these engines to perform as they should.
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Posted February 28, 2017 - 10:47 PM

Same here I have 12 hp units and they power right trough the deep and heavy stuff 

 

Curb snow is the worse and the hardest to move 

 

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This is the curb we got when we got 26" of snow, I was worried when I first looked at it, but the sears powered right through it. 

 

 

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My horse C-120 is a strong thrower as well, just needs some better traction.

 

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Time for a coffee break....

 

Oh here is a little video we did to show the pow'ah of the beast 

 

https://www.facebook...43059412377778/ 

 

 


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Posted March 01, 2017 - 11:05 AM

As MOD used to say, "Some h.p. are percherons, some are saddle horses". The gearing has a lot to do with it. "Feed 'em oats or feed 'em straw".
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Posted March 01, 2017 - 04:58 PM

I didnt realize how much i used it till it wouldnt run the last couple weeks. Its my go to now cause the cub cadet 1042 i was using (with a cracked courage) is really getting bad, it runs but makes alot of bad noises and smokes like crazy. The little 860 would work circles around that POS anyways.
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Posted March 01, 2017 - 07:08 PM

If one reads the book on the history of the Wheelhorse tractors, the need to upgrade to the cast iron front pivot axle was driven by owners using the little Suburban models(engine under your legs model) to basicly to farm with in Spain.  Those models were only 4hp, either Kohler or Clinton engines.  There is nothing I cannot due with my 8 hp wheel horse.  These days most lawn tractors from various brands have 20+ hp V Twin engines and can only mow or due very light duty snow removal and towing a lawn cart.   I can mow, do most anything ground engaging from a rototiller to moldboard plow and disc.  I move my 16 foot boat around with it as well, heck of a lot easier than with my 3/4 ton pickup!  And this winter has sucked for any seat time on the Wheelhorse.   Gotten one snow that was slighly pushable.  Mostly been dustings and ice.  I already have the mower deck back on so I could mulch leaves and sticks last week when it was in the upper 60's    Mike


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