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1456 H14 PTO shaft not used in 25 years frozen in place will not engage


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#91 logmillingman ONLINE  

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Posted May 28, 2017 - 06:53 PM

Here are some more pictures of the dash tower.

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Posted May 28, 2017 - 08:04 PM

Here are the pictures of the fabrication and welding of the lower skirt of the dash tower.

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Posted May 28, 2017 - 08:14 PM

Here are the rest of the pictures.

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Posted May 28, 2017 - 09:28 PM

Been really busy but getting caught up with everyone. This was an excellent tutorial on a repair that could be adapted to most sheet metal repair. I like Alc mentioned used a SW in school. I was always impressed. You've sold me on this HF model. The penetration looks real good on both sides. I like the reinforcements you used. Mine wasn't that bad & I had to get mine to work asap. I plan on pulling mine back off & doing the same. I have some ripples that showed up after painting too I don't like. Once I do this I'll pull the trigger on the high dollar decals from Sam's. Really enjoying your project...nice work.

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Posted May 29, 2017 - 03:44 PM

This is great work. I'm happy to hear the spot welder worked so well. Nice job on your tractor.
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Posted May 30, 2017 - 07:10 AM

Thanks everyone I appreciate your comments!

 

Sawdust when you remove your dash tower again try using the flat punch on the waves in the metal, start out at the high point of the wave sliding the punch along the metal following the axis of the wave. As you are moving along the axis of the high point of the wave lightly tap the punch with a BP hammer , act like a machine a good example is like an body man would use an "English wheel." to work  a flat piece of sheet metal into a curved shape. What you want to do is do the opposite, you want to remove the curve, so as you are lightly tapping begin to move out from the center of the axis on both sides like rolling out a piece of dough with a rolling pin but continue to follow the axis of the wave this is important! Do not move the Flat punch in 90 degree directions like an X or + follow the axis of the wave outward on both sides. What you are doing is pushing the metal out toward the perimeter of the wave. Then start over again using the same technique until the wave is flattened out. What will happen is you will tend to create a wave in the opposite direction or better said you will tend to invert the wave. so be careful and take your time, if you strike to hard you will bend the metal at the point of the punch, go lightly and tease the metal and make it run from you. At first it may seem that nothing is happening, be patient increase the pressure a little if you have to but only if nothing is moving.

 

as you begin to reshape and flatten the waves you will notice others appearing don't get ahead of yourself keep working methodically. So one thing to remember is when you strike the metal you compress it and the metal has to go somewhere and it moves outward, what will happen is you will tend to end up with extra metal and you will get a (flip flop) action in the metal. even though it is now flat it wants to spring back and forth. An old auto body mans trick is to take a touch with a brazing tip on it and make a (red hot) dime size dot on the metal than quench it right away with a wet rag what this will do is shrink the metal. Start in the middle of where the wave was and work in a circular pattern outward. depending on how big the wave was you can space the dots like an inch or more, don't over shrink the metal check it as you go you will be surprised at how fast the metal responds, just do it enough to get rid of the (flip flop) action. Be prepared for it not to be completely perfect but it will be 90 percent better and sometimes perfect, its a fun and rewarding process.  Good luck with your project!


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Posted May 30, 2017 - 06:49 PM

Today I finished the sheet metal repairs on the dash tower.

 

When I removed the seat fender pan to gain access to the PTO shaft, the two bolts that fasten the seat pan to the base of the dash tower showed signs of a lot of stress.

 

The right side was completely missing and the slotted bolt hole in the base of the dash tower was torn and part of the metal was missing.

 

the left side still had the angle bracket bolted to it but was bent out of shape.

 

This H14 has had a lot of seat time and the base of the seat had been repaired and the seat pan where the seat bolted to it was rusted and the metal was severely fractured. This put a lot of stress on the front two fastening bolts and sheet metal on the dash tower.

 

As I have found these different areas on the tractor that have shown excessive wear I have been strengthening them. What I did on the two lower bolting points on the dash tower is spot weld on the left side a reinforcement piece of sheet metal at the lower bolting point. 

 

On the right side I did the same thing but I also had to make a new piece to fill in the original sheet metal that was torn away and was missing, I cleaned up the tear by square cutting the sheet metal. This patch was spot welded then mig welded using tack welds.

 

Here are the pictures of the work.

 

 

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Posted May 30, 2017 - 07:19 PM

Here are some pictures of the right side.

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Posted May 30, 2017 - 07:31 PM

Here are the final pictures of the completed dash tower.

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Posted May 30, 2017 - 11:53 PM

Nice job. Good pictures
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Posted June 05, 2017 - 06:42 AM

I know that you guys have probably already done this but I was searching the internet for tires for the H14 and found that Goodyear has sold their small tire business to Titan but no matter where I looked I could not locate the tread design that Goodyear used on these tires.  

 

The rear tires from Goodyear seem to hold up really well for being 40 + years old, the front tires on my H14 have been replaced before I got the tractor, The front tire in the picture is just a loose tire that came off another tractor.

 

Question is what tire do you all recommend when it comes time to replace the tires or is there a vintage tire manufacturer that I don't know about.

 

Let me know what you think.

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Posted June 05, 2017 - 07:30 AM

I really was hoping some of the guys like miller tire would start making those good year "terra tires"

 

I have been hoarding all the good original ones I can find , Bolens just dont look the same without original style tires IMO!


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Posted June 05, 2017 - 05:19 PM

Yes I was hoping for the same thing that a vintage tire company would start making these tires again.

 

I will have to replace the tires on either the 1050 or the 1000 when I redo them, I will probably put the originals on the Bolens 1000 and purchase new tires for the 1050. Do you have a tire you would recommend if I have to purchase new, I'm talking tread design mostly.


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Posted June 05, 2017 - 05:44 PM

These are the ones I put on my 1053.  The tread on them is not the same as what you are looking for but might work if you can't find anything closer - got them from a local tire dealer here in Canada.

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Posted June 05, 2017 - 06:39 PM

yes 29 Chev you sold me! I like that (BKT) tire, that was the tire I was actually thinking about using if I had to buy new ones. Thanks for taking the time to post them.

 

I like the tread pattern on the BKT, the tires on the back of the Bolens 1000 were flat when I got it and the rubber on the tires were split because of it. I don't think I can save them so I will take the tires off the 1050 which are good and put them on the 1000.

 

The tires you put on your 1053 were the ones I was favoring for the 1050. And now that I see them mounted I really like them. I love to keep things original, I love taking old things and making them look like new again, but unless I come across some extra original tires  some where the 1050 is going to eventually have new tires.

 

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