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#1 glgrumpy ONLINE  

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Posted February 06, 2017 - 08:18 AM

We've all seen or some have used the HF 6.5 engines and seem to like them. A few have used the 13 horse also, haven't heard much on how that went yet..   Latest ads show a V-twin, think was 22? hp or close for only $699.   Kinda look like Kohler design, but sure it isn't.  Just wondering if anyone has used one of those yet?  I think the Vanguards that are similar are great little engines, just wondered how these compare.  Not sure what size shaft either, does not say on the ads that I noticed.



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 08:20 AM

not sure i had a project in mind that i was gonna get one for but ive changed plans an going a different route now



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:11 AM

I think that the v twin predators have a 1 1/8" shaft. Not 100% sure but I'm thinking that's what they are

Edited by Tecumseh power, February 06, 2017 - 10:12 AM.


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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:12 AM

That engine is a close copy of a Honda GX 630.

1" shaft. The killer is the 3 amp charging system. Barely adequate for a GT with an electric clutch.
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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:40 AM

That engine is a close copy of a Honda GX 630.

1" shaft. The killer is the 3 amp charging system. Barely adequate for a GT with an electric clutch.

I think with a little work the charging system could be changed out.



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 11:11 AM

One thing I've noticed about Chinese scooter engines is they don't bother to fit the valves real well.  It's common for them to quit from tight valves at 700-1000 miles.  A Japanese engine typically has a service interval on valve lash of 15,000-20,000 miles and then they are seldom out of spec.

 

I'd bet the small engines are similar.  I'd stay on top of the maintenance if I were using one.


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Posted February 06, 2017 - 11:32 AM

I have a 6.5 on my waste oil Vacuum Tank to run the vacuum pump.  Had to loosen the belt and take it off to to start with the recoil.  Also when cold out you have to remove the air cleaner and plug the hole in the choke butterfly to get enough fuel to it to start.

I threw away the recoil and air cleaner and start it with my Milwaukee cordless drill now and it will start with the belt on now.  Still have to plug the choke butterfly hole to get it going.  About 2 years old and still running.  It is an el-cheapo engine though.



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 12:58 PM

Have been around a couple of them. 10 hp the largest.  Had it on a wood spliter.  No hang power.  Old 10hp cast iron Briggs single would out work it 7 ways from sundown.


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Posted February 06, 2017 - 05:14 PM

China Crap. Lasting value?



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 07:45 PM

I tried replacing a engine in a gator with a 22hp and could not get the idle down below 13k, may be good idea to check on that.



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 08:13 PM

The 13 HP Preditor I had to re-power my MF12G with has run flawlessly for over a year now. Using it for mowing and plowing snow so it sees extreme temp differences. The only issue is if I let it sit and idle for more than 4 or 5 minutes it will start flooding a bit. I'm afraid I like this engine way better than the tired HH120 that came off. It uses half the gas as the HH120 did also.

 

I did recently notice that the Predator V-twin engines advertise cast-iron sleeved cylinders.

 

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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:29 PM

I tried replacing a engine in a gator with a 22hp and could not get the idle down below 13k, may be good idea to check on that.

  I sure hope the "13k" is a typo!!

                                  Mike



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:32 PM

  I think you can thank our good ol' EPA for the hole in the choke butterfly!!

                                      Mike


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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:43 PM

  I sure hope the "13k" is a typo!!

                                  Mike

Has to because the rod would break and flywheel would shatter at 13k



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Posted February 07, 2017 - 08:08 AM

  I sure hope the "13k" is a typo!!

                                  Mike

It was , sorry

13 hundred , we needed to get it down to around 8-9 hundred to switch from forward to  reverse


Edited by grattone, February 07, 2017 - 08:11 AM.





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