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Posted February 03, 2017 - 07:26 PM

I have an 8hp. Sears model 917.252492 tow behind tiller. Year is 1986. I need to find out who made this tiller as Sears no longer sells the tines. :mad2:    I'm hoping if I can find the original manufacturer that parts might be obtainable. I really like using this tiller and if need be will fabricate emplacements myself. 

 

 


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Posted February 03, 2017 - 07:51 PM

Hi, as far as I know Roper built the tillers, I know that getting tines is a problem as I have 2 of them, one thing you might be able to do is find a walk behind and us parts from it the walk behinds of that time were pretty much the same as the tractor models differences are the walk behinds are narrower the tractor model have the trans shifter lever removed


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Posted February 03, 2017 - 09:21 PM

I have one also but does not have a belt tightener on it.  Start the engine with tranny in neutral and let it warm up good.  Shut it down, put in gear and start it up again.  Has to be a better way.  Anyone have a photo of the belt tensioner set up?  Could build one but be nice to have a starting point.


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Posted February 03, 2017 - 09:41 PM

Hi, I'll post some picture of the tiller I converted from walk behind to a sleeve hitch

 

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Posted February 04, 2017 - 05:58 AM

I found a manual for it!


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Posted February 04, 2017 - 07:14 AM

I had one similar, but larger.
Did a lot of looking and concluded the three broken times would just have to be made by hand.

This was the cheaper version that replaced the earlier (and much heavier duty ) tines from the 60-70-80's

Probably the best fix would be to grind off the old and weld on new mounts for some currently available tines.
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Posted February 04, 2017 - 12:20 PM

Went out and looked at it this morning. Decided if I can't find some that I will cut the old ones off leaving enough material to use as a mounting flange. Drill some holes and bolt the new ones onto the side of the flange. The original tines are very wide and should make a good mounting bracket. Don't know why I didn't think of this earlier. Might even get fancy and put them in the lathe and round them off. 

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Posted February 04, 2017 - 04:55 PM

Mine is not the same as yours, 917.62401 with as B&S engine.  Has the extensions to make it about 38" wide.  No place to bolt that bracket for the belt tensioner on the Briggs engine.  No manual for mine either.



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Posted February 04, 2017 - 06:04 PM

Hi chieffan, so is your tiller a walk behind, when I searched Sears direct that's what came up? What model B&S is it? can you post a picture?

 

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Posted February 05, 2017 - 03:58 PM

I have one also but does not have a belt tightener on it.  Start the engine with tranny in neutral and let it warm up good.  Shut it down, put in gear and start it up again.  Has to be a better way.  Anyone have a photo of the belt tensioner set up?  Could build one but be nice to have a starting point.

OK, not sure if this will help, but here are some pictures
The first ones are from the eight horsepower, three point hitch tiller

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The next pictures are from a belt tightener off my father-in-law's walk behind Roto Spader20170205_154854.jpg 20170205_154848.jpg
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Posted February 05, 2017 - 08:23 PM

That's basically the same way mine works. The tensioner linkage goes over center to hold the belt tight. 


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Posted February 06, 2017 - 08:03 AM

Correct. The walk behind, however do not go over Center. They use a hand lever and spring to apply tension.
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Posted February 06, 2017 - 08:31 AM

Mine has been reworked a couple times I think.  My have started as a 3 point mount and converted to a sleeve hitch, which is they way it is now.  Will get a couple photos later this morning.  This may have even been a walk behind at one time.



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Posted February 06, 2017 - 08:56 AM

Mine has been reworked a couple times I think.  My have started as a 3 point mount and converted to a sleeve hitch, which is they way it is now.  Will get a couple photos later this morning.  This may have even been a walk behind at one time.


If it has the gearshift, it started as a walk behind. To the best of my knowledge, only the walkers had selectable gears
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Posted February 06, 2017 - 10:01 AM

Grabbed some pics this morning when I took the dog for his demanding walk.  Am sure this tiller started as a walk behind.  Was converted to 3 point, then to sleeve hitch by the guy I bought it with the tractor from.  Some where along the line the engine was swapped out.  Now has a 5hp B&S with the Wards tag on it.  The tensioner pulley I put on in a hurry last fall to till up a little strip to scatter some flower seeds.  Needs to be worked on some more.  Not sure that 5 is going to be big enough but don't want to go to much bigger or will start tearing something else up.  Garden was plowed last fall.  Will disk it first and then till it as we plant. so won't have a heavy load on it.  The depth wheels is my addition also.  The bracket was there - I just built the T shaft and put the $6 HF wheels on.  New seals from Baum Hydraulics in Omaha.

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