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#1 Greasy6020 ONLINE  

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Posted January 31, 2017 - 01:44 PM

How much hp is "too much"?

I'm looking at a Massey 14, with a kohler k321 that apparently grenaded and puked out a puddle of oil...

I'm looking into repower candidates...

My dad suggested a 20 hp Briggs v twin

I'm interested in a diesel... but costs may prohibit that.

If I do go the v twin route, am I liable to encounter issues? I don't want to blow of the rear end...

Im open to suggestions for the repower

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Posted January 31, 2017 - 01:50 PM

Just go with another Kohler. A 14hp or a 16hp will be easy to do and won't overload anything. The extra effort to modify may not be worth it. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted January 31, 2017 - 01:55 PM

To me, the bigger question is what will this tractor be asked to do when all is said and done, engine wise?

 

Otherwise, I'll always vote for something that feasibly puts the most power to the ground.


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Posted January 31, 2017 - 02:08 PM

To me, the bigger question is what will this tractor be asked to do when all is said and done, engine wise?

Otherwise, I'll always vote for something that feasibly puts the most power to the ground.

Pull a plow, cultivator, push snow and dirt...

Just regular stuff.

And show off... I'm planning on putting straight pipes on

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Posted January 31, 2017 - 02:20 PM

Pull a plow, cultivator, push snow and dirt...

Just regular stuff.

 

I see that as all stuff that the Massey could do easily with it's original size power plant, or similar. I guess after that it's a matter of how much work you want to do and how much you want to spend.


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Posted January 31, 2017 - 02:27 PM

About the easiest would be to go with another K241 (14 hp) or K341 (16 hp)

The K341 will bolt right in and have no issues with the driveshaft

The 16 hp has plenty of power for what you want to do

I found out almost a year of owning one of my MF14 has a K341 in it and has plenty of power for snow blowing, front blade, 12 inch - 1 furrow plow, rototiller, and mower deck.

Haven't had the chance to try a cultivator or disc behind mine yet but think it will handle them with no problem


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Posted January 31, 2017 - 02:29 PM

About the easiest would be to go with another K241 (14 hp) or K341 (16 hp)
The K341 will bolt right in and have no issues with the driveshaft
The 16 hp has plenty of power for what you want to do
I found out almost a year of owning one of my MF14 has a K341 in it and has plenty of power for snow blowing, front blade, 12 inch - 1 furrow plow, rototiller, and mower deck.
Haven't had the chance to try a cultivator or disc behind mine yet but think it will handle them with no problem


Ok, I'm thinking about finding one now...
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Posted January 31, 2017 - 06:13 PM

I'd say like the others put another 14hp or 16hp Kohler K series in it.

Here's a decent running 14     I picked up for a friend couple yrs ago.

https://www.youtube....h?v=SH5iOIPAj14


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Posted January 31, 2017 - 06:15 PM

The 14 HP Kohler has at least as much power s that 20hp twin and a freshened up one will outlast and outwork the newer engine too.
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Posted January 31, 2017 - 06:18 PM

I also say put a k321 or k341 back in. My 16 has yet to meet its match. I've skidded logs, mowed, and pulled a 12" plow without issues.

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Posted January 31, 2017 - 06:56 PM

Have you taken the K321 apart yet to see if it can be fixed/rebuilt?



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Posted January 31, 2017 - 08:02 PM

Have you taken the K321 apart yet to see if it can be fixed/rebuilt?


No, I don't have anywhere to do so, or even have the tractor home

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Posted January 31, 2017 - 08:08 PM

You can disassemble a kohler K anywhere. You'd be suprised. There's not much to them. I've honed, reringed, and repaired a governor gear (initial reason for teardown) in less than a day. Used it that evening for some blade work! Hand tools, feeler gauge, and a torque wrench. Your good to go.

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Edited by dropped82, January 31, 2017 - 08:09 PM.

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Posted January 31, 2017 - 09:36 PM

You don't have room for a rebuild, but you have room to do a repower?!?
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Posted February 01, 2017 - 07:54 AM

How much hp is "too much"?

 

I've been told that Wheel Horse transaxles can  tolerate up to about 35hp. Cub Cadets can handle motorcycle and car engines. I'm not familiar with the trans used in MFs.






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