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Posted January 26, 2017 - 04:17 PM

I'll have to do some dressing before the next paint job, but it's got to warm some for that! This is mainly to help with steering with that 80 lbs of weight hanging out front. The steering has some 'tight' spots in it, but taking the axle out of the equation shows me where those are. I don't want to take the dash back out to get into the gears. I may be able to pull the battery and put some oil on the column shaft. The gear it turns has a grease zerk and it is lubed. Kinda funky how they made the steering! Anyways, it will be better!


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Posted January 27, 2017 - 08:48 AM

Are the thrust bearings an addition or are they standard to the machine?


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Posted January 27, 2017 - 09:02 AM

Are the thrust bearings an addition or are they standard to the machine?

They are an add on. There had to be friction there to wear into the spindles like that. The gouges were over .050" deep.


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Posted January 27, 2017 - 09:53 AM

Kenny, that's a great job! I've seen wear like that come from a combo of a big load on the axle and the axle rocking fore and aft.
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Posted January 27, 2017 - 10:10 AM

Kenny, that's a great job! I've seen wear like that come from a combo of a big load on the axle and the axle rocking fore and aft.

That rocking is happening here. There is a bushing in the axle pivot that is just a bit small for the hole. That allows it to rock some.


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Posted January 27, 2017 - 10:48 AM

Nice job Kenny almost like dental work. Did you use the Dremel. I've used mine & it's a good follow up tool after the grinder. I'm sure your going tell a big difference.
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Posted January 27, 2017 - 11:48 AM

Thanks everyone! I looked for the bushing through the Simplicity Parts Store. Then went to McMaster-Carr and found a drill bushing that should work for the same price. May just go that route. I'll have to measure the length to get one close. Think I'll put a new bolt through, getting one with a shoulder long enough to go through 90%+. That should tighten things up as far as the axle rocking condition. Might even drill the bolt to put a zerk in.


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Posted January 27, 2017 - 12:26 PM

Nice job Kenny almost like dental work. Did you use the Dremel. I've used mine & it's a good follow up tool after the grinder. I'm sure your going tell a big difference.

The wheel on the Dremel wasn't big enough to get in close. Had to use the 4.5" wheel on the grinder. I put a few gouges out where I can weld those and dress with a flap wheel when temps warm enough for paint.


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Posted January 27, 2017 - 02:27 PM

I see no need to order a new bushing for the axle. The one I have measures right at the .880" called out. The hole through the axle is out to .910" That's .030" of slop. Then the hole the 1/2" bolt goes through is over size, more like .510". So I'm going to see if Ace has some .010/.015 shim stock. I'll wrap the bushing and get it in to tighten that up. If I had a lathe, i'd just make a bushing to fit, fixing all that extra slop. At least a 1/2" bolt shoulder will tighten that part better than the threaded part it has now.

 

 

 

I found some .010 stock and got that in between the axle and bushing. Found a bolt with a longer shoulder too. Just waiting for the spindle bushings!


Edited by KennyP, January 27, 2017 - 03:46 PM.
CHanged dimension.

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Posted January 28, 2017 - 06:38 AM

The new spindle bushings will arrive today. Been noodling how to get them in without distorting them. They are.756 X .885, so pretty thin wall. May see if I have a 3/4 bolt long enough to help getting them in. I need to clean the tubes they go in, still have the old grease and crud. I can use gas and a wire brush to get most of it. Once they are here, I can see how tight of a fit they are. Old ones were in there pretty tight.


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Posted January 28, 2017 - 07:24 AM

Add a lubricant when installing the new ones, something in spray form I like using the air tool oil spray it works great
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Posted January 28, 2017 - 12:41 PM

I went out and built a fire to get the chill off. Added a zerk to the axle pivot bolt.

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Cleaned the axle spindles up.

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Just waiting for the bushings to arrive.


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Posted January 28, 2017 - 04:13 PM

Bushing didn't show! But I got something else! Look for the thread!  :dancingbanana:



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Posted January 28, 2017 - 06:08 PM

So how long till Alice gets the power steering installed?


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Posted January 28, 2017 - 06:10 PM

So how long till Alice gets the power steering installed?

Dang! I just got the thing home! Haven't had a chance to see how it's plumbed in yet!


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