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#1 Gtractor ONLINE  

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Posted January 16, 2017 - 05:37 PM

I bought a Cushman, 4 horse, upright, binder engine last summer just down the road @ an estate auction.

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It runs fine and came mounted to a skid but I don't like lugging around cast iron.  I installed two steel wheels and two wooden handles so I could move the engine by myself. 

So I sat there at a few shows watching the flywheel go round and round slowly.... thinking.

 

I gotta build another tractor

 

Most of you will remember my last build,  a Case crossmotor I call the "Fabricobble".

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The inspiration for The Fabricobble was how the exhaust manifold of a Wisconsin twin my brother gave me came out the side of the engine and turned up.  With an angled exhaust pipe it would look like the Case tractors of back when.  For 5 years that idea rolled around in my pea brain until I finally sat down and built it.

 

The Cushman engine has a 6-spoke flywheel on one side and a small flat-belt pulley on the other side with a clutch.  I want a tractor on steel wheels so it looks really old.  1900's through 1930's.

Here is the flywheel that screamed to me to build another miniature tractor.

 

Lets play a game called "Name that Tractor" 

I already know what I'm building and Lowell you can't play. [I already discussed this project with Lowell]

Granted there are not that many ways to design spokes in a wheel so they are mostly the same.

 

What 100+/- year old tractor has a flywheel that looks like this?

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Guesses accepted.  Winner gets nothing. 

 


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Posted January 16, 2017 - 05:43 PM

I'll lurk around and see what transpires!



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Posted January 16, 2017 - 05:48 PM

I'll take a wild guess and say it starts with John. I won't say any more.
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Posted January 16, 2017 - 06:06 PM

Keeping with your earlier theme I'd say Case steam engine tractor.


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Posted January 16, 2017 - 06:08 PM

This would be my next guess.

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Posted January 16, 2017 - 06:35 PM

With out lookin , my guess is a Rumley Oil Pull.

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Posted January 16, 2017 - 07:21 PM

I'd agree with Noel on the Rumley but there were a lot of early tractors with a spoke flywheel. Are you going to leave the engine upright or are you going to lay it on it's side?


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Posted January 16, 2017 - 07:27 PM

:wtf:  :ah_shoot:  :tapping_fingers:  :watching_you:


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Posted January 16, 2017 - 07:52 PM

:watch_over_fence:



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Posted January 16, 2017 - 08:03 PM

You're going to make a Beeman ride on tractor? Cool!
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Posted January 16, 2017 - 08:06 PM

John Deere Model D


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Posted January 16, 2017 - 09:01 PM

Classic is right-on, and in only eleven minutes.  I may have mentioned it to Chieffan before - not sure.  Either way he is correct.

Have to give honorable mention to DougT because he was on the right track but the upright engine threw him off - somewhat.  I know where he was going and had I come back and answered his question,  I'd have thrown him off more. 

Classic's second guess, or something similar was considered.  There were many different tractors that'd be easier to make but I never went for easy in my life.

I spent many hours studying C.H. Wendel's book covering tractors you never even knew about.  All 511 pages and 900+ different brands.  There is even a tractor in this book that used a larger, 2 cylinder Cushman engine and is otherwise close to Classic's second guess. Problem is no one would recognize what it was like they would a Deere.

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I just think the John Deere spoker D would be fun IF I can make it work.  There is still a long way to go.

My intent is to hide the upright cylinder under the hood and make fake cylinders out the front of the engine.  This is by no means a scale model.  Just like my Case it will just resemble the real thing at a glance.  Building scale models takes years and my attention span is not that long.

Thanks to those who participated....  and Kenny,  that wasn't a guess.  :toilethead:  :smilewink:  

 

 

 


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Posted January 16, 2017 - 09:12 PM

You're going to make a Beeman ride on tractor? Cool!

They don't have spoke flywheels, they're solid. Utilitor did build a rider out of their model 501 (basically the same machine) that put a riding attachment in front of the walkbehind. The flywheels were still solid. The Beeman rider was a 4 cylinder inline.



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Posted January 16, 2017 - 09:22 PM

Since I used a Sears Suburban chassis on my Case build, and got along so well with it I been looking for a Sears chassis that was really beyond fixing back to stock.  I already had one out back in the fence row but it has a bad tranny.  All my others are too good to cut up.  Got that opportunity this fall at an auction.  Bought a ratted out, already torn apart rough ole '68 Super 12 that had factory wheel weights and 3 point and I only had to give $70 for it.  Now I had a start.

Here is the donor Sears [1st pic] coming home from the auction, and [2nd pic] set together to see what all I had. I got the engine too.  Everything was there except for the starter/generator.  Half the 3pt was already removed which helped it fit in my tiny pickup.  It had some decent tire chains too.

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And here is what I'm shooting for [loosely]

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Posted January 16, 2017 - 09:52 PM

Looks like it's going to be a fun project, and you did a great job on the other creation. This is the pic I looked at when trying to guess what you were going to build. That engine is a shoe in for sure. I'm very good at winning......nothing, HA! Looking forward to the build!

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