Steps to a Good Paint Job...
Posted June 04, 2011 - 11:03 PM
These gentlemen recommended the following steps to getting a good paint job:
1) Wash and Prep - The first goal is to remove any type of film, including film from incorrect cleaners, which can ruin your paint job. This is a critical step prior to priming. They recommend using dedicated final wash products like Martin Senour's "Fin-L-Wash" or Dupont's "Final Klean". Mr. Black also sprays on enamel reducer and blows it back off before it dries.
2) Primer - Make sure your primer is compatible with the topcoat. On sheet metal, expoxy primer is recommended. Although expensive, it's high- build sands down to a nice, flat surface. On Cast Iron surfaces, use stock primer because expoxy fills in too much and doesn't look natural.
3) Topcoat - Beginning painters can get a nice looking, glassy finish with inexpensive "synthetic enamel paint" and a "good hardener". An example would be stock John Deere paint combined with NAPA's "Crossfire" synthetic enamel reducer and hardener. Using the right hardener and additives is the key. Crossfire stays wet longer and gives more working time. If it looks wet when the painting is finished it will look wet later on. If it looks dry when you're done painting, that's how it will look long term.
4) General recommendations - Alway paint on test panels before attempting your actual project to see the paint job you will be getting. Painting outside on calm days is often preferred because of better lighting. If its raining, the shop is the place to paint and the high humidity will help to keep the dust and bugs down.
Good luck on your next trophy quality paint job.
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Posted June 04, 2011 - 11:43 PM
Also, after all you body work and primer coats, spend the extra few bucks and put a sealer coat over the primer. This ensures a consistent color for your basecoat (or color) and also protects your paint job from anything bleeding thru after a few years.. If your at all familiar with painting, it's 90% prep work and 10% spraying. Spend the time and sand, sand, then sand again.... final sanding is: 320 grit for acrylic enamel (single stage) and at least 400 (recommend 600) for urethane (base/clear)...
Just adding to the post with my own experiences of painting for 15 years + .
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Posted June 05, 2011 - 06:21 AM
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Posted June 05, 2011 - 09:45 AM
ALWAYS wipe everything down with wax and grease remover. When you've wiped it down, wipe it again and then tack rag it!!
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Posted June 05, 2011 - 10:22 AM
Good thread to continue!!! Personally I would suggest going to a local paint jobber and not your local NAPA or other type of automotive store to buy paint. Those paints seem to be harder to work with and will only frustrate a new painter. Plus those guys are not painters, there parts guys....
Yes lets continue. Where do you find paint that isnt from NAPA? We have a Sherwin Williams near by but I dont know if they carry automotive paints.
Posted June 05, 2011 - 10:28 AM
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Posted June 05, 2011 - 02:29 PM
I have sprayed PPG and Dupont, Glasurit, etc... While they spray and lay down very well, it is WAY beyond my budget, at least in my area...
I have had great luck with Valspar (over 15 years) and ProSpray, but they are available in my area at my local jobber and at a decent price.. For a small mower, dont be suprised to pay over $100-200 for supplies (that's everything start to finish), but like I said earlier, you get what you pay for...
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Posted June 05, 2011 - 03:23 PM
Posted June 05, 2011 - 05:37 PM
Tremclad Fire red.
Tremclad Recreational white.
Tremclad Satin black.
Tremclad Clear gloss top coat.
No primer was used.
I am sure if you put it side by side with one painted properly with good paint and spray gun equipment you would see a difference.
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