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#1 Tecumseh power OFFLINE  

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Posted January 02, 2017 - 12:31 AM

I came across a sears gtv16 on Craigslist for 75 bucks. I wanted it for the Tecumseh OH160. Took keep for a spare for my OH180 in my gt18. Incase it ever poops out. I got it home and it had the quick hitch plow. Mount. The same as on my suburban but without the mule drive channel it just mounts to the front. I have never seen a suburban quick hitch plow with the lift lever that mounts to the floor board mounts like the one on my gt18 but they made them because I got one. All I had to do to get it to fit this blue tractor was drill another hole in my plow to get it to on because the height of the mount, isn't as high as the suburban mount. And then drill holes in the floor boards to mount the lift lever. I figured I would use this tractor as a "beater ". So I could hog on it and not worry about it like I would one of my suburbans. So after doing some work to it. Ie. Putting a bushing in the carb. Making it direct drive, and not vari drive as it was missing pieces. And putting a starter on. now it is a 3spd, because of the varidrive removal. Adding wider tires. Chains and 55lb wheel weights I figured I would have a good plow unit. I was really excited to try it out , but when I did I wasn't so happy with the tractor. I plowed with my gt18 and other suburbans with no wheel weights and just tire chains and they went very well. All this thing does is spin and get stuck. Especially when backing up. Does anyone have an idea as to why ? And why my suburbans go alot better . I know they are heavier. But I never had wheel weights on them and I have them on this 16 and the suburbans still went better. They cant weigh that much more. Or does anyone know what I can do to help it go? And I apologize about the pics. They load sideways no matter how I hold my phone when I take them

 

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Posted January 02, 2017 - 12:58 AM

Jack up the front and make sure the front tires rotate easily.  ???


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Posted January 02, 2017 - 02:04 AM

One thought I did have was that it does not have the 16x6.50x8 front tires like it should have it has the lawn mower size front tires that they stuck on it. I thought maybe it is harder to push the smaller tires through the snow

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Posted January 02, 2017 - 02:09 AM

Get another set of chains, remove the cross links and add them evenly spaced to your existing chains. Use minimum tire pressure on rear tires. Hang a weight of the back. If you doubt the effectiveness of  weight on the rear hitch try just try leaning back as far as you can when you get start to spin. Don


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Posted January 02, 2017 - 09:26 AM

Is the rear limited slip?

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Posted January 02, 2017 - 09:54 AM

I didn't know they made a GTV/16 back then.

 

Is the rear limited slip?

Nope!


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Posted January 02, 2017 - 10:55 AM

I didn't know they made a GTV/16 back then.
 

Nope!

Kenny I didn't know they did either I thought they just made the 16/6, but I found out when I got this one they did then I looked online and saw a few more like it!
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Posted January 02, 2017 - 11:19 AM

That's cool! I like the two 80's models I have.


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Posted January 02, 2017 - 12:08 PM

That's a Murray built unit.
Whole different balance to the machine.
Try throttling down some, running lower air in rears and more weight. Especially on the side that spins easier.

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Posted January 02, 2017 - 12:44 PM

Would it be hard to lock the rear ?

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Posted January 02, 2017 - 01:13 PM

That's a Murray built unit.
Whole different balance to the machine.

I wondered about that.... such as is the human sitting on the seat farther back on one tractor than on the other? 

That would effect weight distribution a whole gob and a bunch with every inch of difference.



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Posted January 02, 2017 - 02:28 PM

Would it be hard to lock the rear ?


Not with a welder.
That will eventually break something, but its a winter beater
It'll make turning with the plow down almost imposible tho.
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Posted January 02, 2017 - 03:07 PM



It'll make turning with the plow down almost imposible tho.

While the front wheels would be useless for steering with a locked rearend,   both the rear wheels spinning would be a very effective steering mechanism.  :poke:

[I know this because I used to have a '70 Chevelle with a positive-trac rear when I was a teenager.  :rocker2:


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