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#16 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted December 29, 2016 - 01:50 PM

Hook your vise grips where I have the red arrow. Forget the HF tire tool, use that other tool to roll the tire over. This should let you use your other hand to push the tire down and under the bead area.

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If that doesn't work, take it to a tire shop!


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Posted December 29, 2016 - 01:50 PM

It is mathematically impossible to get the tire over the rim from the fat side. You have to do the skinny side twice.

 

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Posted December 29, 2016 - 01:56 PM

You are working on the hard side. The step on the other side of the rim is closer to the bead. mount that side backwards and slide the wheel through and then do that side. 

 

Yep, that's the problem. Can't get it off or on now.



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Posted December 29, 2016 - 02:00 PM

get a bigger hammer. Hope you didnt booger up the rubber around the bead too bad. It will always have a bead leak if you did


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Posted December 29, 2016 - 02:25 PM

Hook your vise grips where I have the red arrow. Forget the HF tire tool, use that other tool to roll the tire over. This should let you use your other hand to push the tire down and under the bead area.

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If that doesn't work, take it to a tire shop!

 

ditto ditto on the vice grips.

 

keeps the tire from rolling off 



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Posted December 29, 2016 - 02:33 PM

Maybe you have a Canadian metric rim and a USA tire.   ???


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Posted December 29, 2016 - 02:39 PM

The worst is when you are mounting directional tires and after you fight to get the 2nd one mounted and the bead set, you find out you mounted it the same way the as first one. 


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Posted December 29, 2016 - 02:41 PM

You need to mount the tire from the side that has the smallest.  Lube the lip of the rim and get the first side on.  Next you want to lube the inside of the tire bead not where the bead contacts the rim.  As you start the bead over the rim lock down the starting point with a rim lock or vise grips if you don't care if the rim gets scratched.  Then start to feed the bead over the tire. you can use either spoons or a mounting bar.  I like to use the mounting bar, but you have to have a solid post in the middle for the bar to rotate on.  The trick is as you feed the bead over the tire the bottom bead and the top portion that has been feed over the rim have to be in the drop zone of the rim.  This is why I like the mount bar because I can apply pressure with my hip and use my hands to keep the tire beads in the drop zone.  Heating the tire some also help.  I will usually let it sit out in the sun for a while but I guess it is to cold up there to do that.

 

Tater195:  Most Motorcycle tires are directional and I don't know how many times I have caught my self putting it on the wrong way. 


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Posted December 29, 2016 - 04:01 PM

You probably got the first side fought down into the trough, now that part of the tire is fighting getting the 2nd one that deep.

 

An extra pair of hands to get the started side of the bead pushed down into the trough wouldn't hurt.  Also, the head on my HF tire changer is quite large.  Using irons instead will give you just a little more room to work with.

 

Unless your shop is quite warm let the assembly sit in the house for a few hours.  A couple degrees warmer on the rubber can help a lot.


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Posted December 29, 2016 - 04:15 PM

Best places to put it in the house would be on the wifes pillow or center of the dining room table.
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Posted December 29, 2016 - 04:27 PM

is there a front and back in reference to the rim? if there is,, front facing up then put your tire on



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Posted December 29, 2016 - 04:48 PM

Be sure you are mounting the tire to the right side of the rim. the side with the shortest lip to the center dish of the rim as tater pointed out in post 17.



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Posted December 29, 2016 - 05:25 PM

Probably should have had the rim flipped over and mount from that side instead, the drop center is probably closer to that bead. is rim offset? (More sticking out past mounting flange on one way vs the other). Usually you want to mount from the lip (bead) that is shallower to the mounting flange Remember the old school chrome reverse rims that were popular about 40 years ago? Same idea.
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Posted December 29, 2016 - 06:23 PM

Maybe you have a Canadian metric rim and a USA tire. ???

Close. Japanese tire onto an American rim. But the American tire jumps right onto the Japanese rim!

Two spoons and vice grips to get it back off. Another hour straightening the bent parts of the rim.

Holding 12 pounds, no leaks. Thanks for all the help!

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Posted December 29, 2016 - 06:31 PM

Glad you got it on and your tail is saved. 


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