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#1 SgtMoonracer ONLINE  

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Posted December 12, 2016 - 02:00 PM

My newly-rebuilt 900 has 4-link v-bar chains. The chains are old, and the v-bars are just a bar; the "V" is smashed flat except on two cross chains I had to replace. When I try to back up the driveway when it's wet (or snowy), and I have the plow or blower mounted, the tractor generally spins the wheels and I get nowhere. I have the tires loaded with windshield washer fluid, but no additional rear weight.  I can go up forward with no problem.

 

Will I be better served by adding more weight to the rear of the tractor, or buying two-link or European diamond-style chains? Do I need the v-bars, or can I get by with standard chains?

 

I've attached a couple of pictures so you can get an idea of the "lay of the land".

 

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Posted December 12, 2016 - 02:05 PM

I think its time for some wheel weights , that would help alot


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 02:19 PM

Like Brian said, wheel weights will help a lot.

 

If your current chains are 4 link, going to a set of 2 links will help as well.

 

Are your tires turf or Ag?

 

For turfs standard 2 link should work. The v-bars will tend to scratch the asphalt if you spin them.  If that's not an issue for you then go with the v-bars.

 

If you have Ag tires, then you need something different as the cross chains tend to drop down between the lugs and become worthless.

 

For Ag tires the Euro diamond style would be better.

 

Here's a great source for chains:

 

http://www.tirechain.../23x8.50x12.htm


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 02:21 PM

I had the same issue last year.  I had wheel weights.  Still spun.  I didn't mess around.  Tire chain.com and got me some V-bars.  I plowed with my 54" blade going up hill (Fairly steep).


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 02:24 PM

Like Brian said, wheel weights will help a lot.

 

If your current chains are 4 link, going to a set of 2 links will help as well.

 

Are your tires turf or Ag?

 

For turfs standard 2 link should work. The v-bars will tend to scratch the asphalt if you spin them.  If that's not an issue for you then go with the v-bars.

 

If you have Ag tires, then you need something different as the cross chains tend to drop down between the lugs and become worthless.

 

For Ag tires the Euro diamond style would be better.

 

Here's a great source for chains:

 

http://www.tirechain.../23x8.50x12.htm

 

 

 

I have Ag tire and the V-bars worked well for me. 2" spacing.


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 02:30 PM

I think its time for some wheel weights , that would help alot

I second that.  Weights and if there is a place near you that does Rim Guard, I recommend going with that instead of the windsheild washer fluid.  The washer fluid is ok but the Rim Guard weighs much more and is safe for the rims and the environment.  It's not as cheap as washer fluid but it's not all that expensive either.  I think that any chain would slip on blacktop, especially when wet.


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 03:01 PM

The wheelweights will help. Backing up a hill, with a lifted plow, puts your center of gravity farther from the rear wheels than when going downhill pushing. This means less weight on the wheels. Stick with the chains you've got. Get some wheelweights. Enjoy the holiday treats and put on some weight. The other choice is to turn around at the bottom of the hill and drive(or plow) up it. Good Luck, Rick
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Posted December 12, 2016 - 03:26 PM

Turf tires...  

 

I tried to contact Rim-guard for a dealer close to me.  They never got back to me and I kind of forgot about it, and went with the windshield washer fluid.

 

I've been keeping an eye out for weights, but haven't come across any local to me. I'll keep looking.

 

I can plow up the driveway okay, but it's a lot more efficient to start at the top and push to the bottom. I have a lot more room for snow on the low side of the longer, flat driveway.

 

Thanks all, I appreciate the accumulated wisdom.

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Posted December 12, 2016 - 04:49 PM


I can plow up the driveway okay, but it's a lot more efficient to start at the top and push to the bottom. I have a lot more room for snow on the low side of the longer, flat driveway.

 

Thanks all, I appreciate the accumulated wisdom.

Add a cross bar in between what you have now.  GT's work better with cross bars on every other side link in my opinion.  You can still plow the snow to the lower side of your drive by changing the angle of the blade when you plow back up the drive.


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 05:27 PM

I used to plow a steep paved driveway with a Bolens 1050. 

 

Chains & wheel weights alone were not enough when reversing, as you describe. 

 

I mounted a cast-iron V8 engine block to the rear for extra weight, and that solved the problem.

 

You could make a frame that mounts to the rear attachment pins and add weight such as concrete blocks or heavy chunks of steel.


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 06:04 PM

I was going to say something smart alecky about someone riding on the back, but I see your pretty new, so I bit my tongue. If you can get some parts for a bar bell set, they are real easy to adapt to the rear hitch.


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 06:31 PM

Weight down the rear and make sure the front tires are pumped up to the max and then some.
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Posted December 12, 2016 - 06:51 PM

I agree, more weight in the rear and 2 link chains (adding cross chains to yours would work fine). My driveway is pretty steep (about 30% grade) and 150ft. long. I use 2 link chains and weigh the back of the tractor with a hitch cargo carrier (which I narrowed to the width of the tractor) holding a big plastic chest filled with about 150 lbs of driveway salt. I love the traction of v bar chains but they`re really hard on blacktop. Even without v bars the chains left some marks this morning in my driveway. I just had sealed a few months ago. Grrrr.


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Posted December 12, 2016 - 08:51 PM

The fact you say you spin even during just 'wet' conditions makes me thinks you need more weight first and foremost.
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Posted December 13, 2016 - 06:27 AM

Would it be worth the effort to make a frame mount weight bracket and mount the weight as far behind the tractor as possible ? 


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