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#31 dropped82 ONLINE  

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Posted April 06, 2017 - 08:32 PM

The lowly tear streaming down my cheek isn't about the stupid deere, it's over the Ultima!

I guess I was a little insensitive towards the Simplicity people. I didn't take them to be whiners. Nothing intended towards all Deere people either. Ha....now I'm neutral, I think.

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Posted April 06, 2017 - 09:00 PM

Ok... I suspect the linkage of the 140 and the Deutz were opposite and something was lost in translation.  Why not change the linkage of the hydro lever so that the action of the handle does the opposite action at the pump.  Hydros don't really care which direction they run other than reverse ground speed is limited (on Deere).  Did you use the entire linkage that came on the 140 or fab them together?  I am fairly confident this is the source of your problem.  How to make it work?  I am not much help without pics of the new rear end next to the original unit.  


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Posted April 06, 2017 - 09:03 PM

Yes you are correct on the linkage being reversed. Here the deal. The lift system is also reversed. Which will not operate in reverse. Plus I'd like the forward ground speed to be forward. I don't plow backwards haha. Charge pump flip will fix everything. It's not hard to do. Hardest part is sliding the rearend back to remove the driveshaft. The reason the linkage reverses the lever movement is due to the 140 having the charge pump set to flow the opposite direction. That's due to the driving gear on the opposite side of the driven gear in the rear axle compared to the duetz, Deere 300/400, and whoever else used the Peerless. The Dana in the closed frame required opposite input rotation for forward/backwards movement.

I'm actually glad it's like that. Easier than trying to make a modge podge of linkages to make it work. I still have the 140 neutral adjustments and full throw in the drive lever.

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Posted April 16, 2017 - 09:10 AM

As you can see, this build is going idle till after Ball Hollow plow day. Got some other priorities to get ready. After next weekend I'll be back on it. Happy Easter.

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Posted May 18, 2017 - 07:19 PM

Well decided to mess around a little bit with the 140. Started it up and am moving. Just in reverse. I need to swap the linkage to correct that. I thought flipping the charge pump would do it. That only works if the engine is spinning the other direction. No big deal here to take it back. I've been having trouble with the lift circuit. Found out tonight the trouble was me haha. I was pulling the middle lever. Thinking it was like my 420 and operates the belly cylinder. Wrong!!! Pulled the inside lever and everything worked great. Back to swapping linkage. Will update soon!!!

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Posted May 22, 2017 - 07:44 PM

I had it out for a short drive and everything is good so far. Fixed a leaking line at the lift valve. Now I was pondering on what to do. Put the stock fender pan on it or add a set of split fenders and a pan seat. Make a "round fender" from it. What do you all think? Honest opinions are appreciated. It's clearly fairly custom right now. It'll have a cat. 0 3 point on the back. Would probably look good with some split fenders. On the other hand, install the fender pan and make it look somewhat factory.

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Posted May 22, 2017 - 08:15 PM

I vote split round fenders, the old school vibe seems like it goes with you and your Case's. Put an old John Deere "B" seat on it!


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Posted August 09, 2017 - 04:30 PM

Reviving an old thread here. Boat project is ending so time to revisit this girl. I managed to score some rear shoes for her. Not yet sold on the rear tires but better than the bad turfs! They're 26x12 and came off a Gator. Got them real cheap so I couldn't say no. Wheels look kinda neat.

Considering this is primarily a plowday toy, I checked the alignment of the inside front and inside rear. We have a straight line so these wheels may work out.20170809_171322.jpg 20170809_171309.jpg 20170809_171337.jpg

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Posted August 09, 2017 - 04:31 PM

Looks Great Eric


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Posted August 10, 2017 - 08:14 AM

Great build, Eric. I too like the look of those tires. Looking forward to see how you complete the project. I'm new to JDs so no opinion on the fenders, but I do like old-school.


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Posted August 10, 2017 - 10:03 PM

Love the stance! Looks mean.


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Posted August 10, 2017 - 10:36 PM

I say make it look like a mini 5020 or 6030, flat top fenders with rounded backs.77-td4-b01-ext090.jpg68-td4-b03.jpg


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Posted August 10, 2017 - 10:51 PM

Thanks for the compliments!!! So far I've tried 2 different fenders and have yet to find ones I like. I've got a couple ideas pictures in my mind. Just have to locate the parts to execute.

In the meantime, I messed with the drive linkage some tonight. After swapping some things around, I now make use of the full travel allowed by the factory slots. I'm going to add the hydraulic damper like on the 300/400 series tractors. I happen to have one ready to go. Hoping it mellows the jerkiness of going from stopped to motion in either direction. Will test drive again tomorrow.

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Posted August 10, 2017 - 10:58 PM

Holding up a set of footrests from a parts Massey 7. They seems to sit in there nicely. Might be a winner on these also.

On a side note, I've been contemplating more engine power. I have a good k341 on the shelf awaiting something to power. Problem is, it's from a 300 which has the incorrect block. Anyone know what machines to look for that would have the correct "narrow" k341? Anyone have one they wanna swap with me?

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Posted August 10, 2017 - 10:58 PM

Forgot the pic!20170810_235442.jpg

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