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#31 secondtry OFFLINE  

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Posted October 16, 2016 - 06:46 PM

i think part of it is where you are at. in the midwest, east it seems there are more gt's than over here in the west.i have found a few good buys here but most are like this https://spokane.crai...5792386587.html

https://spokane.crai...5812065254.html

The one in Dalton gardens has been there of and on all summer. The guy in Deer Park is some kind of fly by night dealer.


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Posted October 16, 2016 - 07:01 PM

yea he had a cub cadet in there too for 600 or something like that.and a suburban about same price


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Posted October 16, 2016 - 07:15 PM

99.9% of the tractors I buy come from auctions, the rest come from craigslist or word of mouth.  I just bought a non-running Wheel Horse Commando 800 for $160 at auction(needed the PTO, and lift for another tractor I have), the only other bidder told me he wanted it for the starter, told me that you couldn't get them anywhere, and wouldn't pay for one from a Kohler dealer, older guy, searched Ebay that night just for fun, 30+ starters, including several NOS in the $50-$75range, idiots like this really don't help things.


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Posted October 16, 2016 - 09:52 PM

i dont think i will buy anymore gt's unless they are so cheap i just cannot pass it up. i passed that simplicity up for 100,it had a blade and tiller. i think i will just concentrate on keeping the ones i have in good shape


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Posted October 16, 2016 - 10:09 PM

i dont think i will buy anymore gt's unless they are so cheap i just cannot pass it up. i passed that simplicity up for 100,it had a blade and tiller. i think i will just concentrate on keeping the ones i have in good shape

I've gotten a lot more picky, I am getting one in a few weeks that was just too good of a price to pass up(from a buddy), everyone here will have to wait to see what it is though.(insert evil laughter here)


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Posted October 17, 2016 - 05:04 AM

not only tractors  but push mowers also...i was looking for another pusher and wow the price people are asking for basically junk , like xrperry said  i think i'll just keep the ones i have in good shape


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Posted October 17, 2016 - 05:46 AM

 

Why they are high out East where they are all over the places I have no idea.   There, my rant is over for what ever it is worth.

I not trying to offended anyone and maybe not true on every case but here in the northeast everything is high , 30 miles from my house is a county with one of the highest incomes in the nation . With the amount of people living here the chances of somebody willing to pay top dollar or more is going to be higher  . Not me lol    There's people spending more at the Sands Casino in one night then I spent on most of my tractors lol .  


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Posted October 17, 2016 - 06:13 AM

Captain! The amount of pissing and moaning in this thread is getting ahead of the pumps!

Don't worry, son. Just stay the course and carry on, I'll worry about morale.

It's a hell of a day at sea, sir!


Edited by Cat385B, October 17, 2016 - 06:14 AM.

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Posted October 17, 2016 - 06:24 AM

Brian(Bolens 1000)and I discuss this on a pretty normal basis actually. All it takes is 1 knuckle head to overprice a lawn ornament on craigslist and 10 more people follow suit. They run out to the field, snap some pictures, say it ran great when parked. They attach a ridiculous price onto the machine and the trend continues forever. There still are decent and fair people out there that understand what things cost, so it takes alittle more time, but the fair deal will come along. When I buy any tractor(Bolens usually) I have to add $100-$150 on top of the owners asking price because I know that is what I'll generally have to put into the machine in parts to get it running. If people can't understand that, and take that cost into consideration when they price their machine, then they aren't worth dealing with to me.
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Posted October 17, 2016 - 06:56 AM

Its that way with everything nowadays.

Everyone sees themselves as "american pickers"

Also, up untill even 10-15 years ago, classic cars were still seen as "automobiles" and not as "museum relics". Anytime you take the utility away and turn somethig into a showpiece it drives prices up. Not 100% sure this is going on with GTs however.

Its also the fact that everybody wants to feel like they have "something". Even if its a late 80s murray its still "old" and deserves a preimum price.

I run into this alot when people ask me about my 77 ford, they think it should be locked away in a temp controlled dustproof building (even though its not anywhere near a showpiece), their jaw drops when i say i actually still use it.

Eventually high prices will price any "normal" person out of said hobbies. Leaving only rich folks after desirable show pieces to buy them as "investments".

This also presents another issue, as has happend with classic cars, anything that isnt "rare" or "desirable" will he weeded out.

Which sucks for guys who want something to use and enjoy, and not just look at.
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Posted October 17, 2016 - 08:58 AM

Brian(Bolens 1000)and I discuss this on a pretty normal basis actually. All it takes is 1 knuckle head to overprice a lawn ornament on craigslist and 10 more people follow suit. They run out to the field, snap some pictures, say it ran great when parked. They attach a ridiculous price onto the machine and the trend continues forever. There still are decent and fair people out there that understand what things cost, so it takes alittle more time, but the fair deal will come along. When I buy any tractor(Bolens usually) I have to add $100-$150 on top of the owners asking price because I know that is what I'll generally have to put into the machine in parts to get it running. If people can't understand that, and take that cost into consideration when they price their machine, then they aren't worth dealing with to me.


I love it when they say it ran great when Parked. Everything ran great at one time

Edited by Tecumseh power, October 17, 2016 - 08:58 AM.

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Posted October 17, 2016 - 09:53 AM

My tractors are tools, I like them to look presentable, but working correctly means far more to me. I have no desire to collect them for the sake of collecting. Same with my classic cars, they all look nice but are all drivers, and none of the three I have left is a trailer queen.


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Posted October 17, 2016 - 09:03 PM

thats kinda what i think about my gt's,i see some on here and they look new, and absolutely nothing wrong with that. but if i was to do a full restore on mine, i would scratch it, then get pis##d. my gt's look just the way i picked them up,except for a pressure wash and oil change exc. i will put home made parts on them if i have to, to me they just need to work. now if someone wants to give me a restored mf12 i would be happy.lol


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Posted October 17, 2016 - 11:41 PM

thats kinda what i think about my gt's,i see some on here and they look new, and absolutely nothing wrong with that. but if i was to do a full restore on mine, i would scratch it, then get pis##d. my gt's look just the way i picked them up,except for a pressure wash and oil change exc. i will put home made parts on them if i have to, to me they just need to work. now if someone wants to give me a restored mf12 i would be happy.lol


I restore mine to near new, but as soon as they are done I put them to work. They are no good to me sitting in the garage. You only really care about the first couple scratches haha
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Posted October 18, 2016 - 04:29 AM

I looked in the mirror and saw the enemy was me, we drive the price up because we got to have it(or don't get what we want), we want that next to free, or free cool old iron and see what it could be again, we don't want to pay the kings ransom for the motor it needs so we give every vendor online a hit just for looking, more hits means more demand, in a scrap yard we're like rats at the dump and when some one See's that gleam in our eyes they see dollar sign's(always working on my poker face), we'll drive to the next town, county, state or 5 States away to get this hard to find good deal and spend a day and $200 in gas just because we have to have it, or we put it on the back burner(with other back burners) and keep our eyes open and the message out only to find that the longer it takes the more we'll pay,when we do get parts cheep we say I only got $87.50 into the tractor, we don't say we looked in 6 scrap yards to get four tires, traded a deck for a rear end and 5 try's at the carb,we have always over paid for what most people call scrap,our society is based on capitalism driven by supply and demand and the supply is drying up which leads to driving up which leads to paying up,I'm over paying for a tractor this week because I have to have it and not going to be happy until it's sitting in my yard. Penny penny
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