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Posted October 20, 2016 - 05:34 PM

... do you think the handle bar with the lower rod is correct ? It looks like it has been there forever only one is like that ,while both the engine mounts are the same . ...

 

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I was going to say it didn't look factor because of the bad welding, but then I found this picture in their flyer.  It isn't all that clear, but you can just see the same rod between the handles if you turn your head and squint with the eye of faith.

 

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The belt length will depend on the pulley combination.

 

On sn265, there are two brackets welded to the sides of the handle bars.  Do either of yours have them?  Any idea what they are for?

 

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Posted October 22, 2016 - 01:14 PM

Thanks Mark ,yes one tractor has those lower ears that one had no lube holes in the wheel hubs but a grease fitting under the centre of the axle .The other one with the towel rack had greaseable hubs no centre grease fitting after returning from the car wash pretty sure the lower bar is original as it had specks of paint on it. Here is a picture of the one with the lower ears , not sure what it was for maybe a scuffler / cultivator .Something that later proved a dud and was dropped . Cheers Mike

 

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Posted October 22, 2016 - 05:48 PM

That is odd.  I would assume the towel rack tractor to be older, since that part disappeared eventually. My sn862 has the centre axle grease fitting and the hub fitting.    I can understand why they would add a grease fitting to the centre axle, but why they would have stopped making them with grease fittings for a while is a mystery.  Do the hub castings have a part number embossed in them?  Do all four sets have the same part numbers?  I have one tractor with one hub that is an oddball.  I also have a set of hubs with a larger bore hole.

 

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Posted October 26, 2016 - 04:40 PM

Sorry to take so long but the numbers on both were 127-10 think the axle is 1 1/8 " diameter .That is a odd looking hub you have there if the sun ever comes out again I will post a picture of what is done so far .Cheers Mike


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Posted October 26, 2016 - 05:32 PM

127-10 confirms them as pre-sn600.  I have a set of those hubs and ratchet cages if yours aren't serviceable.  


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Posted October 27, 2016 - 04:50 PM

i kept meaning to ask did the 20,30 and 40 all debut at the same time ? Thinking Saturday to go here for a look ....http://theauctionadv...pl?s1=114539039

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Posted October 30, 2016 - 01:55 PM

Well the auction did not yield any parts so I finished the day in the basement working on the recently siezed engine the very least it will need is two top compression rings as they were well and truly siezed . Then this morning I searched Wisconsin on Kijjii and you were not believe what was only a half hour drive away a really nice and complete 1947 Wisconsin AB with Zentith carb and Marlowe pump for 50 bucks .I just got back and unloaded at the very least a great source of parts or baring it having a specific pump crankshaft a drop in engine .Great tin work very well looked after clean tank to boot , you just never know what is out there and closer than you think .Cheers Mike

 

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Posted October 30, 2016 - 02:27 PM

I'm betting the crankshaft is special for the pump. 

Let us know when/if you get it apart because I have a super good engine on the same kind of pump. 


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Posted October 31, 2016 - 08:29 AM

Took the pump off the cart then then other half off the engine it is like I thought a cut down crankshaft but the engine looks good besides. Replaced the sediment bowl,removed the old muffler stub and got the FM mag sparking good agian so later I will mount the engine on a test stand and see how it goes. The pump company is still in business just not making that model anymore . Engine and cart need a trip outside to be pressure washed and likely take the crank from the other engine and swap it in .It has the old style gas tank I like that and it is clean, engine has been well cared for the last 69 years . Cheers Mike

 

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Posted November 01, 2016 - 05:22 PM

i kept meaning to ask did the 20,30 and 40 all debut at the same time ? Thinking Saturday to go here for a look ....http://theauctionadv...pl?s1=114539039

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No, the 15 & 30 were replaced by the 20 & 40.  I don't know if that happened in the same year.  Their records are sketchy at best.  I have a flyer dated 1949 introducing "the new 20 and 40 series tractors", but I also have sn1094, which is a model 30 with an engine dated April 1950.  Sn1634, 1675 and 1686 are all 15s sold in May of 1950.  Sn3283 has a engine sn that is more than 98,000 higher than sn3301, but sn3786 has an engine sn just 600 higher than sn3301.    

 

The 15/20 series has model breaks at sn300, 600, 900, 4070, and 4221, while the 30/40 series breaks are 600, 1150, 1199, 1243, and 4171.


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Posted November 02, 2016 - 08:50 AM

That is very interesting a friend of mine about 72 used his Fathers Model 40 as young man to make money doing custom work I will drop off my manuals to him Thursday to read . The siezed engine had a replacement 4 ring piston and connecting rod while the pump engine which started right up a little squirt of gas has the old style 3 ring piston . Looks like replacement Eaton valves in the pump engine .Thanks agian did you make the auction ? Cheers Mike


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Posted November 04, 2016 - 04:18 PM

Tis ugly about a dozen different colours but I now have a decent running and starting Wisconsin AB turns out the pump engine had a bad big end rod bearing it was quite loud so I removed the piston ,shroud , magneto , and Zenith carb and made the formley siezed engine run again . It does not smoke or knock no visible blow by out the side vent so I took it for a drive around the property lots needs to be done but at least it is moblie . Work over the winter will include reinstalling the Marvel Schebler carb and the upright air cleaner the throttle shaft is quite loose then consider painting all or some of it and installing a hand throttle . Thanks for the manuals and help friends . Cheers Mike

 

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