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#1 Ernie1 OFFLINE  

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Posted October 11, 2016 - 07:47 PM

Hey everyone, hoping someone can help me here. I picked up a SS14 but it doesn't have any spark. I also have an engine from an ST16 that I know has spark. Does anyone know if I can swap parts from the 16 to the 14? I haven't had a chance to mess with it yet and I haven't been able to find an engine manual for the 14 to compare part numbers.
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Posted October 11, 2016 - 08:41 PM

No you cannot the 14 is a briggs the 16 is a Tecumseh.

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Posted October 11, 2016 - 08:46 PM

Some simple things those briggs flywheels get rusty and lose spark. Also check your points and clean them and dry them very well set the gap. Points need to be very clean even the oil on your fingers can short them out. Disconnect the kill wire from the engine to the tractor to rule electrical issues also
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Posted October 11, 2016 - 09:42 PM

Ok, thank you for the help. I figured I'd check for rust and such when I get some time, hopefully that's all it is. Isn't point gap like 10,000 or is it 20,000? I'm not understanding the kill wire, can you please explain how disconnecting it rules electrical issues out? Thanks for the help I'm a newbie at this.

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Posted October 11, 2016 - 09:48 PM

Ten thousandths there is a kill wire that comes off the coil that is wired into the key switch on the tractor. Disconnect it. That will rule out a short somewhere in the wiring itself or a bad switch. If it has spark with it disconected. And no spark with it connected that means you have a a problem in the tractor wiring and not in the engine ignition itself
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Posted October 11, 2016 - 10:34 PM

Ok, got it. Thank you again for the help.

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Posted October 11, 2016 - 11:16 PM

You're welcome

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Posted October 12, 2016 - 08:02 AM

Clean the points well, I set mine at .019.  Could be the condenser also or coil.



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Posted October 13, 2016 - 02:26 AM

Thank you sir. I hope to get to it Friday, a little nervous about getting into the points and everything but I suppose that's the only way to learn

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Posted October 13, 2016 - 08:09 AM

You will learn they are very simple. Just make sure the points are very clean they can't have any residue on them or they will short out. Even the oil from your fingers can cause them not to work. The best way to learn is to do it hands on. We will help you if you get stuck

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Posted October 13, 2016 - 05:02 PM

Sounds great, thank you. Tomorrow is garage day so I'll update any success or defeat. Lol


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Posted October 14, 2016 - 09:06 PM

Well the SS14 is now running!!!!! I took the shield off of the flywheel and found that a critter had built a pretty good home while in storage with the previous owner. After cleaning all that out and shining up the coil and flywheel I still didn't have spark. I removed the point cover and found that the tab where the wires connected was all corroded. Took that all apart, cleaned everything up and now I have good strong spark

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Posted October 14, 2016 - 09:10 PM

Now my next problem, it won't shut off. After letting it run for awhile and testing it cutting some grass I went to shut it off and nothing. I finally just pulled the plug wire to shut it down. Anyone ever experience this? Ignition switch?

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Posted October 14, 2016 - 09:48 PM

Could be ingnition switch, but it also could be a bad ground at the ignition switch.
That switch has to be grounded at the mounting and usually there is a tab crimped under the roll over on the back of the switch.
Make sure you have ground to the body of the switch and that the little tab isn't the culprit.

If you replace the switch, make sure you get the right one.

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Posted October 16, 2016 - 10:59 PM

Ok thank you, I'll check the switch out. Will it still work to start it if the switch isn't grounded?

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