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#1 Bolens800uk OFFLINE  

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Posted October 09, 2016 - 11:30 AM

I have come across this in the UK. I am awaiting info from the seller. Is this a MTD product or a 'genuine' International CC one? Any ideas on date too and also should there be a belt guard/cover on the mower deck? Any other pointers would be useful. Photos lifted off eBay.

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Posted October 09, 2016 - 12:06 PM

My guess is MTD owned cub cadet by then, but the tractors were still cub cadet parts. This is only a guess, I don't own any cub cadets, but want too.

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Posted October 09, 2016 - 02:04 PM

According to Tractor Data it was made from 1979-1985 by IH. http://www.tractorda...-cadet-582.html


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Posted October 09, 2016 - 03:16 PM

The easiest way to tell if it was built by IH or MTD is the rear end.  IH built were cast iron with an ovalish rear cover with 7 bolts holding it on and the MTD built ones were aluminium with a rectangular cover with 9 bolts holding it on.  The serial number will tell the year.  The tag is on the left hand frame between the clutch pedal and fenders.  The deck should have a belt coever on it but a lot of them rotted out or got taken off because they get packed with dirt underneath.  I'd check that deck out real carefully because they rot out from underneath and at least for me have proven near impossible to find and the deck shell is nla from Cub Cadet.  Hope this helps.                      Stewart


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Posted October 09, 2016 - 04:08 PM

I have a 782 and from what I understand is IH made them when they were red, once the colors changed to yellow is when ccc was manufacturing them. But, Its probably more detailed than that....


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Posted October 09, 2016 - 04:09 PM

I really wish IH made a little heavier deck on these. Hard to find one that's not all bent up...


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Posted October 09, 2016 - 04:09 PM

Thanks chaps; useful info. Still waiting to hear from the seller....

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Posted October 09, 2016 - 04:37 PM

I have a 782 and from what I understand is IH made them when they were red, once the colors changed to yellow is when ccc was manufacturing them. But, Its probably more detailed than that....

Ih started with the red tractors with the same old cast iron trans. and when MTD bought the outdoor power products line which included the Cub Cadet tractors from IH they set up the Cub Cadet Corporation and set up new independent CC dealers and switched the trans. to aluminium and those dealers got the yellow/white models.  The IH ag division was still in production selling the farm tractors at that point and if the dealers that also sold the garden tractors, they got them still painted red.  In i believe 1985 when the sale of the ag division to Teneco was finalized creating the Case-IH company CCC stopped making the red ones and any of the old IH ag dealers that wanted to still sell the gts had to switch to the CCC line


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Posted October 09, 2016 - 04:57 PM

How reliable are these? What is the quality of grass cutting if done on a regular basis? Thanks

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Posted October 09, 2016 - 05:38 PM

The tag will say right on it who made it, it will either be a small tag that says international or a larger tag that says cub cadet. Looks like a small tag in the pic, as long as there properly maintained they are very reliable and will cut great.
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Posted October 09, 2016 - 08:48 PM

:yeah_that:        I'd also be interested to see what the serial tag says.  Be interesting to find out if it was made in the US and shipped over or was made in one if IH's plants over there


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Posted October 09, 2016 - 10:44 PM

My 582 is Yellow and CCC branded but has the same exact Cast Iron 7 bolt rear center section that my IH CC 70 does.Both also have the same internal wet brake.The 582 does have the Fine spline axles and Aluminum axle tubes though.

 

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IH CC 70 and CCC 582

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From what I've read it just depends on what serial number it is.The 582 had 3 different transaxles used in them.Mine is one of the few CCC branded ones with the IH built rear.The 9 bolt rears were MTD made.They used 9 bolts because the rear plate was made of Tin instead of the thicker Steel that IH used.

 

Don't forget about the 582 Special and 580.They were Both made by MTD and one was Red and one was yellow.They had the Peerless 4 speed,right angle gear box and a short Belt from the gear box to the peerless transaxle.

582S MTD made http://www.tractorda...82-special.html

580 MTD made http://www.tractorda...-cadet-580.html

 

Here is a 9 bolt MTD made center section and plate.

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Posted October 10, 2016 - 01:16 AM

Many of the early MTD built 82 series still had cast rears. They used what ih already had and then once those were depleted they started putting in the aluminum rears. A 782 that I had, was an early mtd build with cast rear, ih steering wheel cap, and serial tag that said Brownsville, tn. Then the tags switched to Cleveland, oh. Ih built will say louiseville.
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Posted October 12, 2016 - 01:57 PM

The seller contacted me at long last and gave me the serial number #

2050592U685620

Be interested to know what this translate to?

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Posted October 12, 2016 - 02:22 PM

The seller contacted me at long last and gave me the serial number #

2050592U685620

Be interested to know what this translate to?

Thanks

Check this thread, post # 8.


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