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#1 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted October 06, 2016 - 02:57 PM

Well, maybe an idea! I've had this old horse drawn cultivator for a while now. Been trying to figure out how to use it. If there is someone out there that would like it as is, send me a PM. Otherwise, I'm gonna adapt it to a GT. Thinking sleeve hitch. Just not sure how I can do that. Here it is.

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It's 33" wide and weights about the same as a sleeve hitch 10" plow. Not sure how deep it should be able to go. That will determine the hitch height.


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Posted October 06, 2016 - 03:11 PM

Got a idea for you Kenny weld a rod to the point you can lift it with 1450 supper chief

Edited by pick-to-stone, October 06, 2016 - 03:12 PM.

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Posted October 06, 2016 - 03:23 PM

Got a idea for you Kenny weld a rod to the point you can lift it with 1450 supper chief

By hand?


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Posted October 06, 2016 - 03:24 PM

That is an old spring tooth harrow, or so they were call back then.  They only ran about 4" deep and used mainly on fall plowed ground for seed bed prep.  Run your tractor up on 4" blocks and that would be you mid point for height for the hitch.  I lift my plow by hand so should be able to lift the spring tooth.


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Posted October 06, 2016 - 03:51 PM

Upon greater thought, maybe this isn't such a good idea.


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Posted October 06, 2016 - 04:15 PM

Upon greater thought, maybe this isn't such a good idea.

Why not? I have a cultivater that is used alot and not just in the garden. You might really enjoy it.

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Posted October 06, 2016 - 04:19 PM

If it were mine, I would attach two pieces of angle iron to your hitch, like in the picture below. You can then drill holes in the angle iron to match the existing holes in your cultivator/spring harrow. Next attach the hitch piece to the sleeve hitch of your tractor. Then use the method Chieffan described to determine your height difference, cut sections of pipe, to that size to use as spacers and bolt it together. Fairly simple and no permanent mods to the implement .

 

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Posted October 06, 2016 - 04:35 PM

I have to wonder if that is from an old walk behind. I agree with CanadianHobbyFarmer that it should not be modified. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted October 06, 2016 - 04:35 PM

If it were mine, I would attach two pieces of angle iron to your hitch, like in the picture below. You can then drill holes in the angle iron to match the existing holes in your cultivator/spring harrow. Next attach the hitch piece to the sleeve hitch of your tractor. Then use the method Chieffan described to determine your height difference, cut sections of pipe, to that size to use as spacers and bolt it together. Fairly simple and no permanent mods to the implement .

 

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That might work. I would rather not modify to the point it is not usable as horse-drawn. I have a 3-point cultivator, but looking for something the Cub could use.


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Posted October 06, 2016 - 10:03 PM

What change to the frame does the handle make?

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Posted October 07, 2016 - 04:56 AM

What change to the frame does the handle make?

I'll get some pics today of those.


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Posted October 07, 2016 - 06:28 AM

I have to wonder if that is from an old walk behind. I agree with CanadianHobbyFarmer that it should not be modified. Good Luck, Rick

That could be. As narrow as it is (33"), that would make sense. There are several sets of holes at the front in the angle irons. Planned to use them as attachment points. I'm just afraid it is going to be to heavy for the manual lift on the Cub, even with the spring assist I added.


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Posted October 07, 2016 - 06:43 AM

That could be. As narrow as it is (33"), that would make sense. There are several sets of holes at the front in the angle irons. Planned to use them as attachment points. I'm just afraid it is going to be to heavy for the manual lift on the Cub, even with the spring assist I added.

Maybe it is time to think about wheels on it. With wheels to the back of it, the hitch will only have to lift 1/2 the weight. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted October 07, 2016 - 07:18 AM

A lot to think about. The angle irons are about 14-15" above ground level. With the teeth 4 " into the ground, the angles will still need to be 10-11" up. The Sleeve hitch on the Cub will be much lower than that. All things to consider. And the hitch piece I have is from a 10" plow, so the part coming back from it is on a 10° angle and offset. Have to remove it.

I'll get some pics of what the levers do to the tines and maybe get the scales out to see what it weighs today. Study a few things, etc.


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Posted October 07, 2016 - 09:12 AM

I had a professor in the early 70s who advized me "spend 90% of your time planning and 10% doing, you will end up with the best results that way".

 

Dr. K was a brillant man and I learned amazing things from him, in addition to the engineering. He also had a fantastic memory. I graduated and went off to fight the Army. 4+ years later, I went back to UCONN. I'm walking down a hall in one of the Engineering Buildings and say high to him as I pass. He said high to me by name and asked how the Army had been. Before I graduated he had told me some of his adventures during 14 years in the Turkish Navy.

 

The longer that you think about it, the happier you will be with the results. I sometimes take several years to solve problems but I come up with good solutions. Good Luck, Rick


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