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Posted May 27, 2011 - 01:34 AM

I am trying to help a friend identify a garden tractor. It looks like a mid 1970's Gilson (just my guess). We can not seem to find a model number, or a serial number on it.
Where are these numbers usually located?

There is a small aluminum tag attached to the engine, but it is not very legible. It appears to say: Gil 33162 A
However, I can not seem to find any record of that number. The only thing close is model 33162 B, which is listed as a "riding mower".

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Posted May 27, 2011 - 04:31 AM

skid,:welcometogttalk:

Glad to have you with us.

Hopefully someone will come along that can help.

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Posted May 27, 2011 - 05:31 AM

Skid, welcome to GT Talk. Ditto on Maynards post. Not familiar with these at all.

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Posted May 27, 2011 - 05:36 AM

Does have a Gilson look to it. I am going to venture to say that whenever someone added the paint that they might have removed the tag. I am not familiar with Gilsons enough to know where their tags are located. I wish you luck in figuring it out. I am sure there are more knowledgeable guys here that can help you better then I can. Welcome to GTtalk :D

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Posted May 27, 2011 - 07:32 AM

:wave: skid Welcome to GTTalk! Glad to have you with us!

...It looks like a mid 1970's Gilson (just my guess).


I agree that it looks like a Gilson built machine. I don't know much about them, but have seen a few on here.

...There is a small aluminum tag attached to the engine, but it is not very legible. It appears to say: Gil 33162 A...


The serial number is definitely a Gilson, I find it odd that the tag is on the engine though.?.?
I have an older Wards, garden Mark snow blower made by Gilson and the serial number starts with the GIL prefix as well.
Sorry that I couldn't be more help than that. There are a couple of guys on here that know the Gilson stuff pretty well. I'm sure they'll be along. We hope that you enjoy the forum!

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Posted May 27, 2011 - 02:08 PM

Thanks for all the greetings! (I am not used to such hospitality on line)

I think that NUTNDUN may be correct about the paint job destroying the ID, if in fact it was just a sticker.

You would think they would do as engine manufacturers and stamp such important numbers onto the frame.

Although the "been counters" at the factory would probably disagree.

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Posted May 27, 2011 - 02:13 PM

Thanks for all the greetings! (I am not used to such hospitality on line)

I think that NUTNDUN may be correct about the paint job destroying the ID, if in fact it was just a sticker.

You would think they would do as engine manufacturers and stamp such important numbers onto the frame.

Although the "been counters" at the factory would probably disagree.


A lot of the different brands did use and actual serial number tag and Gilson could possible be one of those but even if it was a metal riveted tag there is a chance that the previous owner removed the tag and never put it back on after the paint job. There are a few manufacturers also that used stickers. Bolens is one of them, they didn't do it with all of the models but the 1053 that I restored was a sticker and I managed to keep it intact when scraping it off and it is still sitting in my toolbox.

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Posted May 30, 2011 - 12:10 AM

That's the Montgomery Wards/Gilson transition period tractor.They're are a couple different model tractors they mixed and matched fenders and hoods with.
Still had the square hood but has the newer Full fenders.
If I remember correctly Gilson bought out Wards in late 1972 so your tractor would be a 1973 model.

It's has a cast iron 16hp Briggs and Stratton engine with Peerless Hydro 2 speed transaxle.

Other than the difference in the fenders and hood it is the same tractor as the H16 Hydro.
Manual for H16.http://gardentractor...c732f053c3cff10

The H16 is a 74/75 model they changed the Tins alot in 1 year.

Here's a little video of a 73 gilson on Youtube.
YouTube - ‪1973 Montgomery Ward Gilson 16 Variable speed hydrostatic tractor‬‏
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Posted June 06, 2011 - 02:24 PM

the wards I have has the metal tag attached to the frame just above the right side foot rest. may be painted over but could still be there




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