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#1 Brent03 OFFLINE  

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Posted September 10, 2016 - 09:40 PM

Hi guys,
I'm Brent, new here, have some questions
I have a disease with the lawn/garden tractors as they seem to follow me home.
Not a big deal as I'm a cheap SOB and I have yet to pay over $250 for any of them.
Until I found a JD 430.
I know the owner very well, he is a customer of mine. The 430 is a bareback, has small deck 48?54? Not a 60 anyway. Fairly low hours. 700iirc, diesel, mint shape. I'm looking to replace my simplicity 9020 for tilling duties, I don't mow with the 9020 but I would with the Deere. What is a fair price to pay for one of them?
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Posted September 11, 2016 - 06:34 AM

:wave: Welcome to the forum! That would be a nice machine. The folks in the know will be along, just need a little time to see your post.


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Posted September 11, 2016 - 06:50 AM

Welcome to GTT. We all have the disease and understand. The price thing is actually pretty complicated and is dependant of location, condition, and popularity. The most important thing becomes what you think. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted September 11, 2016 - 07:25 AM

Welcome to GTT. We all have the disease and understand. The price thing is actually pretty complicated and is dependant of location, condition, and popularity. The most important thing becomes what you think. Good Luck, Rick

He told me $3500. I was originally taken aback. As I researched it seems to be quite fair. But hard to compare..
I'm near Winnipeg. Condition is excellent. Ive looked for comparibles, I have come up with a little. I find newer 425 all the time. Huge range in asking price. They are gassers, some all wheel steers, some trashed etc.. I have found a couple 420's, 430's. When I find them they are usually asking in the $5-6k range. There is usually variables though, like big deck, or trashed but has 3pth and attachments with it...
318 in comparible shape here ,tractor only, are $2500 minimum

This one I'd have to be patient and find the 3pth and pto. So I don't know how much value that adds or subtracts from the value of these old girls.
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Posted September 11, 2016 - 08:24 AM

:welcometogttalk:  and there is no cure for this GT disease.! :bigrofl:



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Posted September 11, 2016 - 08:38 AM

The small deck for the 430's is a 50" deck. It barely covers the wheel tracks. If you have stuff to mow around, you will be wishing it was the 60" deck after one mowing.

You can buy aftermarket 3 point hitches for a 430 for around $450 (?) I think, check EBay. The rear pto parts are harder to find, more expensive, and you end up with a 2000 rpm pto. Not exactly easy to find a 2000 rpm tiller. But since you already have one, not a big deal. I'm not sure if the 430 has the same rear pto hookup as your 9020.

I'm curious as to why you don't use the 9020 to mow with. Did it not come with a deck?

430's run $2500-$4000 around here with a deck in good running condition, depending on hours and appearance. Price goes up from there with other attachments included. Last year there was one in Wisconsin with a deck, blower, blade, cab, tiller, and bagger for sale for over $12,000. I consider the 430 to be the most consistently overpriced GT on the market. Don't get wrong, I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could find one priced right. But like you, I'm cheap.

I personally would pass on a $3,500 430 with only a 50 deck, regardless of hours.

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Posted September 11, 2016 - 09:06 AM

The small deck for the 430's is a 50" deck. It barely covers the wheel tracks. If you have stuff to mow around, you will be wishing it was the 60" deck after one mowing.
You can buy aftermarket 3 point hitches for a 430 for around $450 (?) I think, check EBay. The rear pto parts are harder to find, more expensive, and you end up with a 2000 rpm pto. Not exactly easy to find a 2000 rpm tiller. But since you already have one, not a big deal. I'm not sure if the 430 has the same rear pto hookup as your 9020.
I'm curious as to why you don't use the 9020 to mow with. Did it not come with a deck?
430's run $2500-$4000 around here with a deck in good running condition, depending on hours and appearance. Price goes up from there with other attachments included. Last year there was one in Wisconsin with a deck, blower, blade, cab, tiller, and bagger for sale for over $12,000. I consider the 430 to be the most consistently overpriced GT on the market. Don't get wrong, I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could find one priced right. But like you, I'm cheap.
I personally would pass on a $3,500 430 with only a 50 deck, regardless of hours.

I have a 60" deck for the 9020. I don't have a working pto clutch for the front.
This 9020 was a rescue, pulled it from the bush in pieces and put it together. It has not been without its issues along the way. Everything is obsolete on it(not everything but enough stuff is hard to find) I would love to use it but I think it's best to sell it to someone who will return it to its original glory and look at it more so than using it. A Sunday driver so to speak. I have 4.5 acres of grass with a garden. But I'm currently in the process of buying a 10 acre yard. Mowing duties so far have been handled by my Lx188 and helped by the various junk I've owned throughout the summer. Lx173,STX38, now have a 116H to mow with as well. That's why I want to start to move to diesel, the big Onan is very powerful, but thirsty. With that much grass and yard work I imagine a lot of hours will be spent running them.
I have a big tractor 80hp too but I've found it makes ruts unless it's real dry out.

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Posted September 11, 2016 - 09:20 AM

Welcome to GTT

Prices are mostly an opinion.  Everyone varies.

I will tell you that a few years back a small town school district about 45 minutes away had a 430 that they used to mow their football field.  Never sat out overnight. [had to be locked in a building] Never been rained on.   Tractor had 3 point, 60 inch deck, and just over 700 hours and was perfect in every way.  The school district put the tractor on Ebay and it brought $1500. 


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Posted September 11, 2016 - 09:35 AM

I wish. Lol. Up here we pay so much more for good stuff. A 212-216 would easily fetch that much in good condition. Early season anyway, right now prices are coming back to reality somewhat. A month or so back I saw a 9020 no pro, no mower advertised for 2 grand and it was gone in no time. That's what made me think.,,

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Posted September 11, 2016 - 09:44 AM

Welcome aboard Brent.



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Posted September 11, 2016 - 07:54 PM

Welcome Brent03 we have all learned to live with this disease the only way to ease the pain is to

buy another lawn/garden tractor once you have plenty of them around you then you may start to 

stabilize but never cured.

 

Sounds like a nice tractor you are looking at if its what you want in good shape and the price is right

jump on it, on down the road you might wish you had and believe me I wrote the book on cheap my

wallet told me I had to be I have a couple of projects going and wish I could afford to just buy a tractor

I could use and enjoy right now but I would still have a old GT project sitting around to ease the pain.

 



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Posted September 11, 2016 - 08:09 PM

It is nice. No doubt.
Funny thing is I barely spent more than that on my farm tractor. Lol it's 80hp 3pth and 2 speed pto with a loader. Lol

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Posted September 12, 2016 - 03:16 AM

http://gardentractor...t-my-10000-430/



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Posted September 18, 2016 - 08:47 PM

Finding a PTO for that could be a challenge, not impossable or cheap.   If you patient I think you could find a 455 with the rear PTO and 3 pth in that 4 to 5,000.  without the hassle of finding parts and piecing things together.  Thats my 2 cents.  Have fun






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