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#1 Phluphy OFFLINE  

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Posted September 10, 2016 - 02:37 PM

I am not sure what this piece is called but it has to be removed to adequately access the rusted area and do not want to make matters worse by damaging it also.

The shop book, if one can call it that, I have, gives no information on what it's called nor how to remove it.

In that previous questions about the vehicle gleaned a bit of information I'm hoping someone can help me with the requested information.

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Posted September 10, 2016 - 02:49 PM

the sail panel,,,assuming that is the rear window to the left 


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Posted September 10, 2016 - 04:08 PM

Reputable body shop had to replace mine after an accident. leaked like a sieve afterwards. Don't own the vehicle any more. 


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Posted September 10, 2016 - 05:56 PM

the sail panel,,,assuming that is the rear window to the left 

Right rear window just behind top 

 

Reputable body shop had to replace mine after an accident. leaked like a sieve afterwards. Don't own the vehicle any more. 

Car has considerable sentimental value, thus the cause for trying to restore it. 

rear edge of door.



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Posted September 10, 2016 - 06:11 PM

Right rear window just behind top rear edge of door.

 

Car has considerable sentimental value, thus the cause for trying to restore it. 

 



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Posted September 10, 2016 - 06:13 PM

Having a problem with editing. Hope this is clear.



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Posted September 10, 2016 - 10:28 PM

The small piece is just a filler molding, used where they use to use body filler to smooth the transition between panels.
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Posted September 11, 2016 - 12:30 AM

The small piece is just a filler molding, used where they use to use body filler to smooth the transition between panels.

Thanks for the information. Now, any suggestions for removing it, is it replaceable, how is it attached? I've searched on the Internet for a replacement, in the event I booger this one up and found nothing, thus the reason for the proper name for it...finding no information.


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Posted September 11, 2016 - 06:56 AM

Im not 100% sure thats even removable without a saw....

If you yank that chances are 75% its never gonna seal right and youll get a flood everytime it rains.

If its not leaking now, personally id just sand/paint around it. Ive never seen a late model vic rust the roof out unless it had a goofy vynil top that tore and held moisture.
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Posted September 11, 2016 - 10:09 AM

It's glued in with a seam sealer/adhesive, removing it won't necessarily cause a leak, unless it pulkls the seam sealer out where the panels are welded together, at any rate, a bead of sealer will keep it from leaking until you install the new one. It's just vinyl/polymer, the molding I mean.


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Posted September 11, 2016 - 11:29 AM

It's glued in with a seam sealer/adhesive, removing it won't necessarily cause a leak, unless it pulkls the seam sealer out where the panels are welded together, at any rate, a bead of sealer will keep it from leaking until you install the new one. It's just vinyl/polymer, the molding I mean.

Using a magnet demonstrates it is made of steel. 


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Posted September 11, 2016 - 11:33 AM

There is a product which claims to convert rust to a sandable/paintable surface. Anyone know what I'm referring to? Does it stop further rust spread?  



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Posted September 11, 2016 - 12:05 PM

Rust converter?

My grandpa used it on his old 8n tractor before he painted it. It did work.

As far as stopping future rust, i wouldnt bet on it. Rust is like cancer, only way to really stop it is to completly cut it out and replace with fresh metal

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Posted September 11, 2016 - 02:39 PM

Using a magnet demonstrates it is made of steel.


Well, I stand corrected, on my Camaro it's a plastic and so was the one on the Pacifica my wife had. Didn't mean to mislead you.

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Posted September 11, 2016 - 02:40 PM

All I've ever seen are installed as a filler strip between the two panels, not sure how they attach steel ones.
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