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#1 OldBuzzard ONLINE  

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Posted May 23, 2011 - 09:51 PM

Since I'm planning on using the tiller and the Snow Caster on the G10, I'm thinking that either a spring asst, or hyd lift would make life a lot easier.

What are the pro's and cons of each?

Also, assuming that I can find one, what sort of $$ would I be looking at spending? I'm not saying that "money is no object", but I'm not adverse to spending a bit for the the advantage that one or the other would give.

EDIT.

While I'm at it. I also need an air filter for the G10. Can someone tell me what will work? It has no 'cover'. It's just supposed to be an exposed dry element.

Edited by OldBuzzard, May 23, 2011 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted May 24, 2011 - 08:00 AM

All I can say is once you get a hydraulic lift you will never go back to the manual lift LOL.

I have tried the spring assist kits a while back and they do work. It definitely makes it easier to manually lift.

can you get a picture of the existing filter?

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Posted May 24, 2011 - 08:25 AM

Forgot to add this:

Some of the G10 models didnt have an extra groove in the pulley for the hydraulic belt. Make sure you have a pulley that will accept a hydraulic belt first.....

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Posted May 24, 2011 - 08:55 AM

I am sure that your G10 is supposed to have a cover on the air filter.

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Posted May 24, 2011 - 11:31 AM

Forgot to add this:

Some of the G10 models didnt have an extra groove in the pulley for the hydraulic belt. Make sure you have a pulley that will accept a hydraulic belt first.....


Which pully?

I am sure that your G10 is supposed to have a cover on the air filter.


Not according to the G10 parts manual.

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Posted May 24, 2011 - 05:12 PM

I got the tiller "semi-mounted" on the G10.

Can't seem to get the PTO shaft on at the same time I get the tiller mounted, so I have the tiller on, but have the PTO shaft suspended with some twine until I can figure out what the 'trick' is.

Anyway, that tiller is HEAVY, and it danged sure isn't easy getting it lifted! I'm DEFINITELY wanting some "help'. I'm betting that I'll find that the same is true with the Snow Caster as well.

I ain't getting any younger and I need all the help I can get :D

If possible, I want a hydraulic asst. Where would I find one, and what can I expect to pay for it?

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Posted May 24, 2011 - 11:58 PM

I also need an air filter for the G10. Can someone tell me what will work? It has no 'cover'. It's just supposed to be an exposed dry element.


Does your G10 have the Tecumseh engine (1973-1975) or the B&S engine (1976-1977) ???

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Posted May 25, 2011 - 01:31 AM

It has the Briggs.

3 Speed trans, It has Hi-Lo range, but just has one belt that you have to physically move from one set of pullys to the other.

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Posted May 25, 2011 - 05:17 AM

Which pully?




the engine pulley.

There should be a groove between the PTO and drive pulley

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Posted May 25, 2011 - 05:19 AM

I got the tiller "semi-mounted" on the G10.

Can't seem to get the PTO shaft on at the same time I get the tiller mounted, so I have the tiller on, but have the PTO shaft suspended with some twine until I can figure out what the 'trick' is.

Anyway, that tiller is HEAVY, and it danged sure isn't easy getting it lifted! I'm DEFINITELY wanting some "help'. I'm betting that I'll find that the same is true with the Snow Caster as well.

I ain't getting any younger and I need all the help I can get :D

If possible, I want a hydraulic asst. Where would I find one, and what can I expect to pay for it?


Sometimes it can be a real PITA getting the shaft on while trying to line up the holes in the back.
The shaft must be connected first before you put in the pins in the rear.

The Hydraulic lifts seem to have got quite expensive over the last couple years.
Back in the 70's they sold for around $285

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Posted May 25, 2011 - 05:37 AM

Maybe an electric lift would work if adding a hyd. unit won't . This is just a general info on them ,Al
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Posted May 25, 2011 - 07:46 AM

It has the Briggs.

3 Speed trans, It has Hi-Lo range, but just has one belt that you have to physically move from one set of pullys to the other.


Additional info for the G-10's according to Bolens Manuals:

1973 & 1974 - Model 1055-01 Tecumseh engine HH100 - 115181D has engine pulley # 1717336

1975 - Model 1055-02 Tecumseh engine HH100 - 115181D has engine pulley # 1717336

1976 - Model 1055-03 B&S engine model # 251417 type # 0159-01 has engine pulley # 1731271

1977 - Model 1055-04 B&S engine model # 251417 type # 0159-01 has engine pulley # 1731271

To install a # 18703 Hydraulic lift kit on a 1055-01 or 1055-02 requires a #1731271 engine pulley. (This implies that the 1055-03 and 1055-04 have the correct engine pulley to mount the hydraulic lift. ......Since your tractor has the B&S engine, you have the later model, and it should have the correct pulley. .....But, as Brian said, you need to verify that your engine pulley has the groove for the hydraulic pump belt. ......You should have 1 groove for the PTO belt, 2 grooves for the drive (Hi & Lo), and one groove (smaller diameter ?) for the pump drive between the PTO & Drive grooves.

I don't have a B&S Parts breakdown for the 251417 handy, but from memory (not always reliable) I believe the B&S engine did not have a cover over the dry air filter element.

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Posted May 31, 2011 - 09:17 PM

Found a Hydraulic lift on Ebay :dancingbanana:

I thought it was a bit high at 399.00 though, so made an offer of 300.00.

Seller took the offer so I sent the $$ via Paypal, and it will be on the way shortly.

Don't know if I "done good" on the $$, but as I'm not getting any younger, I'm not going to squawk about the $$ since it's gonna save me a lot of effort :smile1:

Seller said that it's off of a "working" 1050, so it should work on the G10. I did check and there is a pulley groove immediately adjacent to (to the rear) the PTO groove. It's a smaller dia. than the PTO groove. Even if it doesn't work on the G10, I still have the 800, so it will get used on one or the other.

Now I gotta find an "Installation Manual".

Edited by OldBuzzard, May 31, 2011 - 09:41 PM.


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Posted June 01, 2011 - 05:31 AM

Congratulations on getting the lift!

Both the "new" style and "old" style parts lists are in the manuals section.

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Posted June 01, 2011 - 07:10 AM

Congratulations on getting the lift!

Both the "new" style and "old" style parts lists are in the manuals section.


I saw those and downloaded them last night.

What I'm hoping to find are some installation instructions/manual.




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