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#31 oldcuz OFFLINE  

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Posted September 07, 2016 - 05:36 PM

Ok here is what I got I took the engine off and when I got it to where I could
get a good look at it on each support bracket one bolt was screwed into the
mounting pad the other was screwed into where the oil pan bolt should have been
with a long bolt neither one of the support bracket mounting holes were wide
enough to bolt to the four outside mounting holes on the oil pan. looking at
diagram in the 200 series parts catalog I have the rear support #16 and the front
support #17 which is for my tractor and they were rigged to the engine no way
that was going to work what I am missing is the base #8 yes 3 pieces to this
puzzle the base #8 bolts to the mounting pad on the oil pan of the engine then
the front and rear supports #16 and #17 bolts to the base #8 after they are all
connected together in the right order the four outside bolts to the isolators and
when I find the right base and yeah there are two different bases this drama
is over going back to where I got it tomorrow and take another look around the
shop it was in I did not know what I was looking for at the time hope its there

Now what about the tapered shaft is this going to be a issue ? or not

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Posted September 07, 2016 - 06:13 PM

Ok, you have a electric PTO cradled. As far as I know John Deere had all straight shaft engines in the 200 series. I would suggest checking out Weekend Freedom Machines, its a site run and populated by John Deere lawn and garden collectors and enthusiast, they can help you out on anything John Deere.
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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:11 PM

Looks like a Pump engine  or a Generator the way that crank is, not going to work on the Deere with out some major work  



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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:14 PM

Leonard VanCamp - thank you for your help everyone done a good job helping out
with this little ordeal it has been a learning experience for me maybe on down
the road I can help someone else with my new gained knowledge on a 210 engine
cradle.

I got some wild looking pulleys that had some wires with a plug on it that is
probably part of my electric PTO setup I'll get to that on down the road.

Put the support brackets on for a minute to see what they suppose to look like
and to check the base bracket when I locate it or buy one. they just on there
temporary

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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:22 PM

Well if you go back to look for more parts ask if anything else goes to this tractor it has the rear lift setup on it for a sleeve hitch or a tiller. That may be laying around somewhere



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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:26 PM

littledeere - I was afraid of that thought a tapered shaft was something that
would not be on a garden tractor if I can get it fitted in the cradle I will get
it running so I can at least sell it and have everything ready for the right
straight shaft engine it would make it easier to sell also.

If its any good and runs right what's it worth ?

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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:31 PM

Its hard to say really $100 -$300 if it will fit a Welder or Generator it should be on the higher side I would think but prices are really all over from place to place


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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:34 PM

Took some pictures of my parts 210 engine. Not great but the best I could get for now.
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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:48 PM

littledeere - suppose to go back tomorrow to search the shop for the cradle
tiller probably not but a hitch maybe. $100 - 300 sounds reasonable I guess it
will depend on how good it runs. hope it runs $300 good

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Posted September 07, 2016 - 08:52 PM

truck21 - my oil pan does not look like that one I will download that to my
phone so I'll have something to go by in my quest for the missing cradle.

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Posted September 07, 2016 - 09:28 PM

I wish that I could have been more help on this but I have little experience with JDs. I did learn a lot though. Should be helpful on future projects. I have 2 111s and a 1968 112. 


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Posted September 07, 2016 - 10:10 PM

Looks like you need a engine with the mounting ears cast on the block. Either oil pan will work with that cradle setup. If you have the electric PTO pulleys and clutch then the only thing you would need is a switch. Looks like you picked up a FrankenDeere, a little bit of this model, a little bit of that model, etc. If you need any help just give me a shout, I've restored four JDs already and have two more in the pipeline to be restored.
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Posted September 07, 2016 - 10:19 PM

I have seen tapered to straight shaft adapters. I cant comment on if they are tough enough to hold up in this application, as I have never used one.


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Posted September 08, 2016 - 08:44 AM

Merle013 - That's totally ok I have zero experience with JD's we all came
together and figured it out and gained a little knowledge

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Posted September 08, 2016 - 09:17 AM

Leonard VanCamp - That's good news that either oil pan will works I won't have
to worry about having the wrong oil pan when I find another engine, there is a
lever on the dash that says PTO that goes to a metal rod and I guess that's
where the switch is suppose to be. There's another missing part.

Yeah I thought I picked up a good deal be easy and cheap to get it going and
could have been if not for the wrong type tapered shaft engine hopefully I can
find someone that needs this engine. I will call on you if need some help thank
you for your help so far.




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