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Poll: Skinny duals vs fat singles (17 member(s) have cast votes)

Skinny duals vs fat singles

  1. 6-12 ag tread duals (2 votes [11.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  2. 23 8.50 12 ag tread singles (15 votes [88.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 88.24%

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#1 Greasy6020 ONLINE  

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Posted August 17, 2016 - 10:41 PM

Another debate about tires... Duals vs singles, the usual

I recently acquired a massey ferguson 12 hydro (yes yes I'll post pics!) that I that I want to use for my "utility/all purpose" tractor.

I want to plow snow in the winter, so skinny tires like 6-12 Carlisle ag tires seems ideal. But I also want to work the garden in the summer, so I need a wider tire, for more floatation/traction, so logically a pair of 23 8.50 12 ag tires would be ideal...

If I get 6-12 ag tires, I would think dual 6-12 tires would be comparable to single 23 8.50 12 tires, also ag tread. But the 6-12 duals have the versatility of being taken on/off to match the task at hand instead of being stuck with a fixed width/traction/flotation amount.

Anyone wanna be the voice of reason?
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Edited by Greasy6020, August 17, 2016 - 10:42 PM.


#2 classic ONLINE  

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Posted August 18, 2016 - 12:58 AM

23x8.50-12 ags are the ideal tire for what you plan to do with the tractor. I've heard people say ags and chains are not as good as turf and chains for plowing snow, but I totally disagree. I just had to mention that in case you were wondering. Dual 6-12 tires are really a thing of the past unless you have a special purpose in mind, like making a tractor with a front end loader more stable. Duals can be a problem if your snow plow or blower is narrower than the overall width of the rear with duals, and that will most likely be the case. The duals put more strain on the axle, take up more space when you park the machine, and will cost you more money to get the same jobs done in your case. I've been plowing a long steep driveway with an Allis Big Ten with 23x8.50-12 ags and chains and have no problems. I'm pretty amazed at how that little tractor can push snow. I may put dual 6-12 ags on my B1 with the sickle attachment, just to make it more stable when sickle mowing the ditches. I'm sure other people have found duals to work well for certain jobs and it would be good to hear some input.
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Posted August 18, 2016 - 03:52 AM

Ags and chains are the way to go. That's what use and it works great. Never had duals, so I can't really comment, but I can understand they would make the tractor more stable. Loaded would be even better, I would think.

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Posted August 18, 2016 - 04:16 AM

i agree ags and chains...although i push snow with just anti freeze filled ags and have very little problems


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Posted August 18, 2016 - 04:26 AM

Unless you are working on sizable slopes, the duels would be for looks. I have a set of 9.50 and a set of 10.50 that I am trying. So far the 10.50 have out done the 9.50 in everything I tried them in, wet grass snow and garden. Both are turf. In the snow it surprised me because I was thinking that the 9.50 would have more weight per inch of contact.
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Posted August 18, 2016 - 07:15 AM

23x8.50-12 ags are the ideal tire for what you plan to do with the tractor. I've heard people say ags and chains are not as good as turf and chains for plowing snow, but I totally disagree. I just had to mention that in case you were wondering. Dual 6-12 tires are really a thing of the past unless you have a special purpose in mind, like making a tractor with a front end loader more stable. Duals can be a problem if your snow plow or blower is narrower than the overall width of the rear with duals, and that will most likely be the case. The duals put more strain on the axle, take up more space when you park the machine, and will cost you more money to get the same jobs done in your case. I've been plowing a long steep driveway with an Allis Big Ten with 23x8.50-12 ags and chains and have no problems. I'm pretty amazed at how that little tractor can push snow. I may put dual 6-12 ags on my B1 with the sickle attachment, just to make it more stable when sickle mowing the ditches. I'm sure other people have found duals to work well for certain jobs and it would be good to hear some input.


I wanted the duals so I could drop the outer duals for snow plowing, then put them back on for spring/garden work...

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Posted August 18, 2016 - 07:17 AM

Unless you are working on sizable slopes, the duels would be for looks. I have a set of 9.50 and a set of 10.50 that I am trying. So far the 10.50 have out done the 9.50 in everything I tried them in, wet grass snow and garden. Both are turf. In the snow it surprised me because I was thinking that the 9.50 would have more weight per inch of contact.


Ya, I wanted the duals for looks too, but I would have thought 6-12 ag duals would be comparable to 23 10.50 12 ag singles.

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Posted August 18, 2016 - 08:10 AM

Why not use two different wheels?  If your thinking of "dropping the outside one off", why not just take it off and mount the other wheel?  Be a lot quicker and simpler.  Duels without a loader are just plain ugly on a Gt.  I run the 8.50 Ag tires year around filled with washer fluid and have no problem plowing, cultivator or blowing snow.  To each his own so go for what you want.


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Posted August 18, 2016 - 08:45 AM

Wouldn't the duels in dirt pack mud between them?


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Posted August 18, 2016 - 08:56 AM

Wouldn't the duels in dirt pack mud between them?


Well, yes if you didn't have a spacer (11" outer diameter pipe?) to create a gap between the tires...

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Posted August 18, 2016 - 11:01 AM

Duals are for stability, capacity and appearance, singles are for traction.


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Posted August 18, 2016 - 02:29 PM

I run only 23x8.50-12 ags on my GT's.  Weights on for traction in both snow and dirt with chains added in the winter.  In my opinion that's the best way to go.  The only tractors that have 6.00-12 around here are ones that don't do any work that are restored to original condition.

 

Duals belong on farm tractors over 100hp.  LOL!


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Posted August 18, 2016 - 05:08 PM

I dunno how the duels would have worked .

I set up 'Rusty' with the 12x6 and chains last winter and it worked out great .

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But I think he looks pretty Bad-ass with the duels :D

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Posted August 18, 2016 - 05:15 PM

Rusty looks great with his duals!
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Posted August 18, 2016 - 07:04 PM

They look great, but cut the #/psi in half.
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