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#1 802EconJD OFFLINE  

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Posted August 09, 2016 - 12:58 PM

Can someone tell me the correct original engine for a 1947 chain steer? Wisconsin or Briggs?

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Posted August 09, 2016 - 01:28 PM

It would either be a briggs ZZP or a Wisconsin AEH or AERS.  Either would be correct.



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Posted August 09, 2016 - 01:56 PM

Thank you. Do you happen to know where the serial numbers are located on the chain steer tractors?

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Posted August 09, 2016 - 01:56 PM

Thank you. Do you happen to know where the serial numbers are located on the chain steer tractors?

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Posted August 09, 2016 - 06:43 PM

Many had none. Many have a tag on top of the clutch housing or case. Those tags are sometimes riveted and/or screwed on and do get lost or damaged, thus missing. Even later tractors only had decals on grill and dash which become unreadable or painted over in their lives. No stampings that I am aware of.

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Posted August 09, 2016 - 06:56 PM

Which engine would be better, the Wisconsin or the Briggs? This tractor is complete, minus the engine. Anyone know any good resources for a complete engine for a 1947 chain steer?

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Posted August 10, 2016 - 04:24 AM

Many had none. Many have a tag on top of the clutch housing or case. Those tags are sometimes riveted and/or screwed on and do get lost or damaged, thus missing. Even later tractors only had decals on grill and dash which become unreadable or painted over in their lives. No stampings that I am aware of.

What he said.



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Posted August 10, 2016 - 04:28 AM

Which engine would be better, the Wisconsin or the Briggs? This tractor is complete, minus the engine. Anyone know any good resources for a complete engine for a 1947 chain steer?

Thanks Again!

Either are good but as far as availability of parts I would think the briggs would be what you want.  There is a certain spec you need to look for to get an engine that will bolt up to the clutch housing properly.  I do not know those specs, sorry.  Some folks make an adapter to get everything to bolt up but on a 47, I would think you would want to keep it as original as you can.  A little research should tell you what you need.



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Posted August 12, 2016 - 11:42 AM

I would also suggest the 3 past issues of the Lawn and Garden Tractor Magazine that had a lot of info about Chain Steer Tractors.

Also, if the sn tag is not available, how do you know that this tractor is a '47?

There are several clues available that do help date the years and you might very well be able to identify the year without the tag

I have a '47 Chain Steer (sn 403) with the Wisconsin AEH and I do enjoy it. I have owned a couple of  '48's but have passed them on to other folks.

 

Good luck with your search for an engine.

 

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Posted August 12, 2016 - 12:12 PM

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Posted August 12, 2016 - 06:26 PM

Sorry for the limited information. I am chasing two chain steers right now. One the owners says has a serial number in the 140s, it's missing the engine. I don't have pictures from the owner as of yet. This one is 4.5 hours from me.
The second one does not have a serial number tag. It appears to complete be complete with a Briggs ZZP engine. The owner of this one thinks this one is likely a 1948. This tractor is 8 hours from me. As I get pictures I will be sure to post them etc. thank you for all the replies and information!

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Posted August 13, 2016 - 02:44 PM

Here is a few pics of the chain steer i am most interested in purchasing. This one is missing the serial number tag. Looks mostly [attachment complete, Briggs motor turns over. Please look at pictures let me know your thoughts.

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Posted August 14, 2016 - 01:41 PM

Hi,

Looks to have most of the parts to indicate '48:

Rights-2 hole per side solid steel front axle, pan seat, Steering wheel looks to be correct, Hopefully 24" rear wheels on a keyed rear axle

Wrong-should have the aluminum aircraft taildragger wheels instead of the wheelbarrow wheels.

 

Also has some extra added pcs that can be removed.

 

This tractor has great potential. Good luck

 

One issue with the early sn14xish thrt you also mentioned is the fact that a lot of the early tractors did not have them originally installed.

 

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Posted August 14, 2016 - 07:06 PM

Chuck thank you for your input. I agree I think this one is a nice candidate for a chain steer restoration.
How hard is it to locate a pair of the correct 1948 front wheels?
Sitting right next to it is serial number 1644, an early 1950. What was called the deluxe model I believe, with the automotive type steering & Wisconsin engine.
I have made offers on both tractors and will know tomorrow if they will be the beginning my early economy collection.

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Posted August 15, 2016 - 08:55 AM

The correct '48 chain steer wheels should not be terribly difficult or expensive to find. I picked up 1 at the Portland, In show/swap last year for a very nominal cost.

I will send you a pm.

Good luck.

Chuck

 

My previous email about the sn14x ish tractor had to do about rear brakes.






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