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#1 victor3ranger OFFLINE  

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Posted August 05, 2016 - 10:35 AM

Has anyone ever thought about building a rear shaft driven mower by using a JD gear drive belly deck and hooking it up to the 3pt and rear PTO shaft??

I have sniffed around on the net and haven't found anything like this but surely it could not be too difficult to build, right?
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Posted August 05, 2016 - 11:09 AM

I have done it with MF 1655.  I believe they had the option also.



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Posted August 05, 2016 - 11:09 AM

I thought someone here did that once. It wouldn't be too hard to do as long as the PTO was the same speed as the deck was using and right rotation.



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Posted August 05, 2016 - 11:57 AM

I thought someone here did that once. It wouldn't be too hard to do as long as the PTO was the same speed as the deck was using and right rotation.


That's what I was thinking. Something like a 2000rpm deck that has the correct rotation gear box.

I sure wish I could find a write up or something like that of someones project.

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Posted August 05, 2016 - 12:14 PM

I've got a Kubota deck that I will check out the ratio on and see what it is. Your 318 has a 2,000RPM rear PTO gearbox on it or slower?

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Posted August 05, 2016 - 12:21 PM

I've got a Kubota deck that I will check out the ratio on and see what it is. Your 318 has a 2,000RPM rear PTO gearbox on it or slower?


Not sure. I was thinking about attaching a shaft to the rear output of the hydro and running a shaft out the back so a driveshaft could be attached to the mower deck gearbox.

I have seen pictures of the shafts like this on the 317's so I would think it could be done from a 317.
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Posted August 05, 2016 - 06:31 PM

JD offered one, so it can be done.   their version requires the rear PTO kit, which is 2000rpm.  Running directly off the rear shaft gets you engine rpm.  I 'borrowed' this pic from the 'net.

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Posted August 06, 2016 - 02:30 PM

JD offered one, so it can be done.   their version requires the rear PTO kit, which is 2000rpm.  Running directly off the rear shaft gets you engine rpm.  I 'borrowed' this pic from the 'net.


That is exactly what I am talking about!

I would have to figure out how to run the rear shaft off the back of the tractor. Mine does not have the rear PTO on my tractor and would like to figure out if I can just run a shaft from the rear of the hydro where the shaft attaches to.

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Posted August 06, 2016 - 03:47 PM

The deck I have looks like this one

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Posted August 08, 2016 - 10:38 AM

I have been planning that when I built my rear PTO/3 point hitch add-on for my 140. It uses the 140 rear PTO, which is very similar to the 317 set-up, to power a standard splined PTO. Right now, I have a sprayer that uses it, but I am going to build a deck for it eventually.

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Posted August 08, 2016 - 10:49 AM

Oh, to add, mine like yours has a live PTO that spins all the time the engine is spinning. This is why I added a set of pulleys and belts and lever. This way, when the engine is running, I have the option of on and off. It is a bit complicated, but gives me piece of mind that I can stop it without having to kill the motor and also transport from one place to another. Here is a picture.



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Posted August 08, 2016 - 05:22 PM

Do you have any pictures of how the tension pulleys and lever work?? This is almost exactly what I was thinking about with mine.

You wouldn't happen to know where I could find a shaft with the correct splines coming out of the rear of a 317 would you??

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Posted August 08, 2016 - 06:11 PM

Here is a video. I hope it works.

https://goo.gl/photo...9QDimj6BBrafwT6

As far as the shaft. I know they come up every once in awhile on eBay. Also, there is the option of making one, which is what I did on my 1969, which are way more pricey. Fortunately, for my 1972, I got one from the seller. Just look around, they do pop up.



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Posted August 09, 2016 - 12:22 PM

Do you have any pictures of how the tension pulleys and lever work?? This is almost exactly what I was thinking about with mine.

You wouldn't happen to know where I could find a shaft with the correct splines coming out of the rear of a 317 would you??

Also, did you want a picture with it off of the machine too? I could do that today.

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Posted August 11, 2016 - 04:39 PM

Sorry it has taken this long to get back on here, I have been out of pocket for a couple of days.

I was unable to view the video for some reason.

Being able to see just how that tension pulley is set up would help a lot.
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