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Cub 782 and 1811 similiarites and differences

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#1 Mark 149 J. OFFLINE  

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Posted July 25, 2016 - 11:02 PM

Found a Cub 1811 for sale for $250.  It looks just like the Cub 782.  I know the 1811 was made by MTD and the 782 by IH.  The motors are also different.    I know the 782 was built in early 80's and the 1811 in the late 80's.  When I looks through the parts manuals it appears that these two tractors are almost identical. 

 

My questions to the Cub experts,  what are the differences?  Is the 1811 a good tractors=?

 

I've always liked the 782 but they're always so expensive.  This 1811 might satisfy my need for a 782 if it's very similar.

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Posted July 26, 2016 - 02:30 AM

A lot of the 782's were built by MTD, anything with a black axle.


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Posted July 26, 2016 - 05:48 AM

Deck on that looks beefy. Hey it's not a Red 782 , but looks worth the $250 to me. Good Luck :thumbs:


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Posted July 26, 2016 - 06:43 AM

1811 will have the Kohler Magnum 18 power plant versus the Kohler KT 17 series l or series ll in the 782. For $250...my gosh man buy that thing! Another note is the 1811 will have the 31mm fine spline axles & 3rd member.

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Posted July 26, 2016 - 06:51 AM

That price is a steal !  I bought a rear decent 1811 with no motor for $400 as I had lead on a motor to go in it..  together and running and is a nice working mowing unit.  Mine has the three turn steering sector which makes it easier to turn but wheel response is slower.  Make sure the hydro pump is good.  When they get weak they have a tendency to want to run away going down grade when they get hot.  Have two of them that way..  $500 starting price to rebuild one.


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Posted July 26, 2016 - 10:25 AM

The 1811 is a great tractor, there were 782s built by mtd and the only real difference between the two is the engine but the mag 18 was a better engine. The biggest problem with the mag 18 is the shaft the governor rides on, they were known for falling out which let the governor fall into the engine. There was a procedure to pin the shaft so it wouldn't fall out. The governor is visible through the oil to tube so take a flashlight with you, look down the oil fill tube for the white governor gear, if you don't see one the engine will have to come apart.

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Posted July 26, 2016 - 12:23 PM

1811 will have the Kohler Magnum 18 power plant versus the Kohler KT 17 series l or series ll in the 782. For $250...my gosh man buy that thing! Another note is the 1811 will have the 31mm fine spline axles & 3rd member.

I'm trying to convince my wife that "I need" another tractor.



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Posted July 26, 2016 - 12:26 PM

That price is a steal !  I bought a rear decent 1811 with no motor for $400 as I had lead on a motor to go in it..  together and running and is a nice working mowing unit.  Mine has the three turn steering sector which makes it easier to turn but wheel response is slower.  Make sure the hydro pump is good.  When they get weak they have a tendency to want to run away going down grade when they get hot.  Have two of them that way..  $500 starting price to rebuild one.

I'll have to check that out.  I've rebuild the hydro myself on my toro ztr for about $100.  They're fairly simple to rebuild.  You have to keep everything clean.



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Posted July 26, 2016 - 12:30 PM

The 1811 is a great tractor, there were 782s built by mtd and the only real difference between the two is the engine but the mag 18 was a better engine. The biggest problem with the mag 18 is the shaft the governor rides on, they were known for falling out which let the governor fall into the engine. There was a procedure to pin the shaft so it wouldn't fall out. The governor is visible through the oil to tube so take a flashlight with you, look down the oil fill tube for the white governor gear, if you don't see one the engine will have to come apart.

This one has the 19.5 Kohler.  Will this still have the problem with the governor? 

 

Now that I think about it, I can't remember which engine it is.


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Posted July 26, 2016 - 12:51 PM

The 1811 came from the factory with a Kohler Magnum 18, if it has any engine other than that it's been modified which is fine provided they didnt do a hack job.
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Posted July 26, 2016 - 02:30 PM

1811 is a great tractor.  I have an 1812, and it's a workhorse.  (1812 is an 1811 with an aux hydro spool.)


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Posted July 26, 2016 - 04:36 PM

WOW!!!!!  That thing looks nice for $250!  Why is it not in your garage yet?  LOL!!!  Seriously I wouldn't hesitate on that thing.  GO buy it before someone else does!


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Posted July 26, 2016 - 05:18 PM

I finally caved in to peer pressure :smilewink: and bought the 1811.  :dancingbanana:  I won't be able to pick it up until next week because we're going camping and I don't have the time to pickup my friends trailer to get the tractor.   Fortunately the owner said I could leave it at his shop until I get back Monday. 

The only issue that the tractor has is a leak in the transaxle.  The PO said it used about 1 quart a season.  I'm not to worried about it.  I figured I would pressure wash it when I get the time and see what's leaking.  When I looked at it, you could see that it was leaking from somewhere in the front.  In the top pictures, you can see a fair amount of gunk around the drive shaft tunnel.

The deck has been replace sometime during the 90's with a 46" deck.  That will work for now until I can find a 50" or bigger one in the future.

I seem to be finding a lot of tractors this summer.  In June I picked up the Cub 123 with deck, tiller, and trailer.  Mid July a MTD 990 with a snow plow and now the 1811.  It's a good thing I've made some extra money this summer to pay for my habit. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted July 26, 2016 - 05:24 PM

I finally caved in to peer pressure :smilewink: and bought the 1811.  :dancingbanana:  I won't be able to pick it up until next week because we're going camping and I don't have the time to pickup my friends trailer to get the tractor.   Fortunately the owner said I could leave it at his shop until I get back Monday. 

The only issue that the tractor has is a leak in the transaxle.  The PO said it used about 1 quart a season.  I'm not to worried about it.  I figured I would pressure wash it when I get the time and see what's leaking.  When I looked at it, you could see that it was leaking from somewhere in the front.  In the top pictures, you can see a fair amount of gunk around the drive shaft tunnel.

The deck has been replace sometime during the 90's with a 46" deck.  That will work for now until I can find a 50" or bigger one in the future.

I seem to be finding a lot of tractors this summer.  In June I picked up the Cub 123 with deck, tiller, and trailer.  Mid July a MTD 990 with a snow plow and now the 1811.  It's a good thing I've made some extra money this summer to pay for my habit. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Near the front my bet would be the filter or the cork gasket between the pump and the transaxle housing.  Neither are expensive, but the gasket is an involved process.  Could also be on of the hystat tubing lines.


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Posted July 26, 2016 - 05:30 PM

Near the front my bet would be the filter or the cork gasket between the pump and the transaxle housing.  Neither are expensive, but the gasket is an involved process.

I'm hoping the filter or a O-ring on the hydraulic lines. 







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