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#1 ECosta OFFLINE  

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Posted July 04, 2016 - 09:16 PM

Hello Guys, first of all im completely noob in this lawn tractor thing, but i LOVE it. why? cause somehow i got a 60s Wheel Horse. im a machine operator, i drive the Big asphalt machines, excavators etc etc, and nothing puts a smile on my face as driving the little wheel horse.


Anyways, i bought a old Ford lawn tractor, it came with a Kohler engine that wasnt running. so i took it out, and replaced with a Honda copy 420cc engine. brand new, i welded the supports, everything nice, wired new lights, got super happy with final result, when i started it and put it in reverse it goes forward, and when i put forward it goes on reverse... it sucks, and i have no ideia how to fix it or change it. is there some kind of transmission to change it?


Sorry my English by the way. 


Please help guys.


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Posted July 05, 2016 - 01:13 AM

Any pictures of the tractor and engine. Welcome to the site.


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Posted July 05, 2016 - 02:22 AM

Welcome to GTT. Your English is fine. Is the tractor a Ford or a Wheelhorse? The engines connect very differently. We need some picks to see what is going on. Show the engine and which way it turns. Show the shift pattern.


Your situation of driving heavy equipment by day and a GT for fun, reminds me of an Allis Chalmers ad from 50 years ago. I'll try to find it for you.  Here it is:   http://gardentractor...-1967-allis-ad/   Good Luck, Rick

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Posted July 05, 2016 - 04:07 AM


My guess is (what ever tractor you have) is the new engine is running backwards (opposite direction) compared to the original.

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Posted July 05, 2016 - 04:30 AM

What kc9 said, the honda rotation is oposite that of the original,another engine is the only fix or just drive with 1 forward and 3 reverse
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Posted July 05, 2016 - 04:52 AM

Welcome to GTtalk!

The engine rotation should be counter clockwise at the output shaft. The only exception I have ever personally seen are the OHV Kawasaki engines used in Club Cars which have clockwise rotation.

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Posted July 05, 2016 - 05:03 AM

my guess is the kohler was driving from the recoil /flywheel side and the new motor is driving from the normal crank side

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Posted July 05, 2016 - 06:27 AM

Change the shifter decal :smilewink: just chiding

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Posted July 05, 2016 - 06:31 AM

my guess is the kohler was driving from the recoil /flywheel side and the new motor is driving from the normal crank side

I was thinking the same thing. I have a Gilson built Ford here that drives off the flywheel. And...Welcome to the forum.

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Posted July 05, 2016 - 06:35 AM

I think the guys nailed it.
Some tractor manufacturers used the flywheel side, some the output Side
It depends on who built that for Ford.

Pictures and a model number will help us help you

Oh, and :welcometogttalk:
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Posted July 05, 2016 - 02:26 PM

  If space permits you could turn the engine around and build a jackshaft to install between the engine and tranny/ pto shafts.


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Posted July 08, 2016 - 08:06 PM

Years ago (ok decades) some engine swaps for corvairs included a reverse rotation camshaft so you could adapt a v8 chevy in front of the axle. Not an easy fix unless the option already exists for other applications of the same motor. Good luck.
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