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#136 KennyP OFFLINE  

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Posted November 30, 2016 - 05:18 PM

I just got off the phone with skyrydr2 (Keith). Gave me some options. One thing I forgot about until I saw Eric's post is that I have a JD 140 out back as a parts tractor. Has the H3 option. But the cylinder is still on it. It's a shorter stroke, but may be of use if I could mount it out back and push straight up with it. Time to noodle things.



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Posted November 30, 2016 - 05:20 PM

4"
Roughly 9" compressed, 13" extended.

Eric

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What is the closed length, off hand?



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Posted November 30, 2016 - 06:15 PM

4"
Roughly 9" compressed, 13" extended.

Eric

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That sounds nearly perfect! Hmmmmm? What is the OD and shaft size? Also, pin diameter?



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Posted December 01, 2016 - 04:21 AM

That cylinder would give you some serious lift! Just remember to get the most from your hydraulic cylinder you want to push with them.
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Posted December 01, 2016 - 05:27 AM

I'll get some pics of the rear areas today, probably this afternoon. That will let me study things and work through the options you pointed out Keith.



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Posted December 01, 2016 - 06:22 AM

 

That cylinder would give you some serious lift! Just remember to get the most from your hydraulic cylinder you want to push with them

Kenny might be a good time since your reworking your cylinder mount that if it's not pushing like Keith said to spend the extra time  There are different ways some GT mount their cylinders to get it that way my PK pushes a arm on a pivot which at first couldn't figure out why they would mount it that way . I bet there are many way to do it


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Posted December 01, 2016 - 06:28 AM

Thought a picture would be better then me trying to explain . You wouldn't have to have that special slotted cylinder but could mount it on the side or top , this set-up gives a arm for any front mounted equipment on the lower part of the arm , upper is for the 3 point

 

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Posted December 01, 2016 - 07:31 AM

Thought a picture would be better then me trying to explain . You wouldn't have to have that special slotted cylinder but could mount it on the side or top , this set-up gives a arm for any front mounted equipment on the lower part of the arm , upper is for the 3 point

 

attachicon.giflift.gif

I'm working on that now, Al. Playing with a drawing to see if I can make it work. 

Found a pic of the area.

 
Rather tight quarters. My thought is to use the existing rear cylinder mount as a rockshaft. Not sure if is possible with the oil filter mount right there and whether I can mount the cylinder further forward.
 
Here is a pic of what it looks like with the fender, foot board and tire on there.
DSCN1569.JPG

 


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Posted December 01, 2016 - 08:38 AM

Just to give you an idea  part #7 in the picture I posted is a guard for your RH foot it's mounted up that far up on the tractor and a long rod goes back to the 3 pt rocker .


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Posted December 01, 2016 - 09:30 AM

 

My thought is to use the existing rear cylinder mount as a rockshaft. Not sure if is possible with the oil filter mount right there and whether I can mount the cylinder further forward.

 

Is there any way you could use a remote filter mount to gain some space? I've done that on trucks, but have no idea if the adapters can handle hydraulic pressures.


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Posted December 01, 2016 - 09:45 AM

Is there any way you could use a remote filter mount to gain some space? I've done that on trucks, but have no idea if the adapters can handle hydraulic pressures.

This is a remote base.

http://www.surplusce...LTER-9-7291.axd

 

It's mounted so my hoses reach it easily. Relocating it would not be a huge issue other than hose length.


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Posted December 01, 2016 - 03:11 PM

Got some pics of what I have to work with. Doing some checking, I can use the existing mount for a rock shaft. I'll have to do something different with the filter mount, lower or attach differently. In the last pic, the rear of the cylinder will be where my tape is sitting, need a new cylinder mount there. I'll update my drawing and upload it later.

 

DSCN2442.JPG    DSCN2443.JPG

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Posted December 01, 2016 - 04:50 PM

Here's what I have in mind! Final product may be a bit different, but similar. I am moving the attachment point to the 3-point rockshaft further away from the pivot and with the cylinder pushing, I should gain lifting capability.

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Posted December 02, 2016 - 05:02 AM

There you go Kenny! That will work! Now you just need to find room to fit it all in.
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Posted December 02, 2016 - 06:09 AM

I have one concern and I'll point that out in a bit.

 

Got something to look at for the concern. When raised and starting to lower, the link between rockshafts is pointed downward toward the rear rockshaft. Could this be an issue? I have it marked in the drawing below.

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It won't be hard to change right now.


Edited by KennyP, December 02, 2016 - 06:33 AM.





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