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#1 Utah Smitty OFFLINE  

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Posted June 07, 2016 - 10:15 PM

This and several other GTs are for sale on our local online classifieds.  The owner texted me a picture of this John Deere, but doesn't know the model number, and I can't find one on the pictures. 

 

It appears to be a hydrostatic--based on the lever on the RH side, and the cap at the back of the fender pan... It appears to have a Kohler K-series single cylinder... does anyone know what it is?

 

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JOSH JD UNK RH.jpg   JOSH JD UNK ENGINE.jpg


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Posted June 07, 2016 - 10:17 PM

140, I think.
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Posted June 07, 2016 - 10:39 PM

Is that patio paint showing through?

 

 

Plus its the uber rare,  6 volt model!  :worshippy1:


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Posted June 07, 2016 - 10:42 PM

WOW 3 remotes.


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Posted June 07, 2016 - 11:07 PM

140 H3 Patio by the looks of it.Dirty shame someone painted it green.I would snatch that one up and dump a good chunk of money into it.Those are worth some good coin.

 

Can you get any numbers off of the tag?Here is a registry for IDing JD patio 140 tractors.White indicates the Patio tractors.

 

Code SN Range Year Color Engine Hydraulics:

T0581 10,001-22,400 1969 Green 14K H-1

T0581 10,001-22,400 1969 White 14K H-1

T0583 10,001-22,400 1969 Green 14K H-3

T0583 10,001-22,400 1969 White 14K H-3

T0581 22,401-30,000 1970 Green 14K H-1

T0582 22,401-30,000 1970 White 14K H-1

T0583 22,401-30,000 1970 Green 14K H-3

T0584 22,401-30,000 1970 White 14K H-3

T0581 30,001-38,000 1971 Green 14K H-1

T0582 30,001-38,000 1971 White 14K H-1

T0583 30,001-38,000 1971 Green 14K H-3

T0584 30,001-38,000 1971 White 14K H-3

T0585 38,001-46,500 1972 Green 14K H-1

T0586 38,001-46,500 1972 Green 14K H-3

T0585 46,501-56,500 1973 Green 14K H-1

T0586 46,501-56,500 1973 Green 14K H-3

T0585 56,501- Up 1974 Green 14K H-1

T0586 56,501- Up 1974 Green 14K H-3


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Posted June 07, 2016 - 11:37 PM

I'll try to get more info on it...l unfortunately it's 300 miles away from me on the other end of the state... Where is the data tag at???

 

He's asking $300 for it... seems high to me, what do you think?

 

He also has a JD400 and a JD AMT626, asking $400 and $600 respectively.

 

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Edited by Utah Smitty, June 07, 2016 - 11:41 PM.


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Posted June 08, 2016 - 01:26 AM

$300 is cheap for a running H3 but as a possible parts machine? I have no idea.I would imagine you could strip it down and make some money off of it if it's to far gone.But if it's a Patio I you would really want to restore it.

 

If it's a Patio 140 H3 I would think it would be worth 10x that or more restored of coarse.

 

Number tag should be just below the steering column.

 

http://www.tractorda...140-photos.html


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Posted June 08, 2016 - 03:04 AM

140 H3. I would say its 1970 or older.

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Posted June 08, 2016 - 06:36 AM

140 H3. I would say its 1970 or older.
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I have to say that the 6 volt battery threw me. First time I've seen a GT with 6 Volt electrical.

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Posted June 08, 2016 - 06:41 AM

It may have been repowered-- the picture of the H3 on Tractor Data shows a way different Air Filter.

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Posted June 08, 2016 - 07:18 AM

140 H-3 without question.  Get the serial tag info if you can as you can.  70 & 71 model years identify the tractor as a "custom color" build in the type code but a 1969 will not.  The fender pan's white paint and the decals on the hood are hints at the "custom color" origin.  The air cleaner looks correct other than missing the out cap.  Does he have the seat pan?  Can you lightly sand the hood to see if a color is impregnated in the fiberglass?



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Posted June 08, 2016 - 07:25 AM

This is what mine looks like. It's a 1970. Took pictures similar to the ones you posted. The six volt Battery was put in by mistake, I would say. It's missing the top engine shroud. It would not cool the engine very well like that.

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Posted June 08, 2016 - 07:32 AM

From WFM

 

 

John Deere Custom Color Lawn and Garden Tractors

During the 1969 model year, John Deere introduced the Custom Color series of lawn and garden tractors and attachments. Collectors often referred to this equipment as "Patio Models". In 1969, the models offered in Custom Colors were the 110, 112, and 140. The Model 120 was added to this list the following year in 1970. The marketing group at John Deere Horicon Works felt that not all of their customers wanted a green garden tractor, and so by offering a variety of colors, sales of lawn tractors would increase. These Custom Color lawn and garden tractors were painted entirely in Dogwood White except for the hood and seat. The hood and seat were offered in one of four colors: Patio Red, Sunset Orange, April Yellow, and Spruce Blue. These colors matched those of John Deere’s popular competitors. Tractors were shipped minus the hood and seat; the dealer would then install the colored hood and seat of choice.

All the attachments were painted Dogwood White to match the garden tractors. Some of these attachments included the #80 Cart, #37A and #49 Snow throwers, #31 and #33 Tillers, #43 and #54 Front Blades, #5A Sprayers, and of course all models of the mower decks including the #39, #47, #41, and #48.

Originally when they were released in 1969 the entire tractor was painted in Dogwood White except for the hood and seat, of course. This included such things as the engine, fuel tank, mower deck attachment linkage, and the mule drive on certain models. John Deere found that the white paint on the engine had a tendency to stain. Also this meant that more parts had to be painted separately. So, for 1970, black paint was used on the engine, fuel tank, mower attachment linkages and some other items. This way these parts could be used on both the custom color and the green lawn and garden tractors without separate painting being done. Even though the engine on the Custom Color 140 was changed to black in 1970, the air cleaner cover remained in white. The seat base is unique to Custom Colored tractors in that it is textured and not smooth like the green tractors.

Also when these models were released in 1969 the type number for the green and Custom Color versions was the same on the serial number plate. Later this was changed so that a unique type number was used for the Custom Color tractors.

It didn’t take long for John Deere’s Marketing Group to find out that customers buying John Deere garden tractors wanted a green tractor and not one of a different color. Sales of the Custom Color tractors were disappointing and in the 1971 model year, production of the custom color tractors ceased. Dealers repainted many of the tractors and hoods green to get them sold. Many of the seats were used to make parts counter stools, were given away, or they ended up laying around on dealer parts shelves for years waiting to be picked up by collectors. The yellow seats, of course, were used on the green tractors and the first to be used. Because of this, yellow is probably the hardest color of seat to find.

The Ertl Toy Co. of Dyersville, Iowa made a matching set of 1/16th scale Custom Colored garden tractors to match the real ones. These 1:16 scale toys were offered in the four colors and a matching Dogwood White lawn trailer was also available. These toys were offered in a "Dealer Display" box and are highly sought after by toy and garden tractor collectors alike.

Today the Custom Color or patio garden tractors that John Deere made have become highly collectible. Due to the fact that they sold poorly when new, they are somewhat more difficult to find than their green counterparts. Many have been found wearing the familiar green and yellow paint, so be sure to examine the type codes. Many collectors consider the Custom Color 120 the most difficult to find, and there is much debate surrounding which of the colors is the most rare. Many of the attachments other than the mower decks are among the hardest to find of John Deere factory attachments.

Below is the list of the Dupont Centari paint codes and a listing of custom color type numbers.

Starmist White 59373 Lemans Blue Metallic  5030 Sunset Orange 60659 Fleet Red  2622 Fleet Yellow 23820

 Custom Tractor Type codes for 1970 and 1971 models only, as the 1969 models are the same as the green ones.

110 T0642M, T0648M 112 T0654M, T0655M, T0656M, T0658M 120 T0572M 140 T0582M, T0584M

Summary by Dave Borkowski, 08/07/2002


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Posted June 08, 2016 - 04:06 PM

Ya those original Patio Seats are pretty pricey even in rough condition.I was going to say it was a JD 120 or 140 but if I remember correctly they didn't make a H3 version of the 120.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...X4AAOSwHJhXNRh-

 

Wonder what color the hood is under that nasty Green paint?I see lots of white on the body but nothing but green on the hood.



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Posted June 08, 2016 - 05:23 PM

I'm going to say it's a 1970 140.

 

1969 140's didn't have the frame notch out for the points cover, however it could have been cutout by the owner, but I doubt it.  I'm pretty sure those types of hood hinges were last used on the '70 140 model year, and don't think the '71 140's used them. Could be wrong though. The other thing I see that makes me think it's a 1970 model year, is the rear hubs have the screw in lug bolts, only used on the early rears. The later tranny had the lug bolts as an integral part of the hub, and you only threaded on the nuts to hold the wheels to the hubs. I'm going to guess the serial number to be between the 23,000-24,000 range. 

 

As for someone painting the tractor all green, it most likely was painted by the dealership, as the patio tractors that didn't sell, were all changed to green. What i find interesting is, the engine color being the same color as the body color. 1970 and '71 models have black engines, no matter what color the body is painted. 


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