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#1 flyboy OFFLINE  

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Posted June 06, 2016 - 07:59 AM

First of all I would like to thank the person who wrote the article: Bolens Tractors: The Tube Frame Series 1962-1978! What a wealth of useful information, Thank You! 

 

After reading the article I have a question about the 650 I am restoring. I purchased this 650 about 20 years ago and it has a Briggs 8hp (model 190402) manual pull start on it. I read that electric start was an option for the 650's that year (1966). The tractor has everything in place to be an electric model and I have tracked down a Delco Remy starter/generator and regulator, BUT the engine DOES NOT have a belt pulley on the flywheel and, if I was able to locate a pulley, I don't see anyway to attach the pulley to the flywheel.


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Posted June 06, 2016 - 08:11 AM

Welcome to GTtalk.  I'm sure one of the Bolens members will be by shortly to answer your question.


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Posted June 06, 2016 - 08:47 AM

Welcome :wave:

 

The original setups on these were a rope start sheave in the center  then higher up there was the sheave for the starter belt.

What kind of setup do you have on there ?


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Posted June 06, 2016 - 04:17 PM

 

 

. I purchased this 650 about 20 years ago and it has a Briggs 8hp (model 190402) manual pull start on it. I read that electric start was an option for the 650's that year (1966). The tractor has everything in place to be an electric model and I have tracked down a Delco Remy starter/generator and regulator, BUT the engine DOES NOT have a belt pulley on the flywheel and, if I was able to locate a pulley, I don't see anyway to attach the pulley to the flywheel.

 

There were two models of the Bolens 650 tractors in 1966.  ...Model # 184-01 left the factory as a 6hp manual (recoil) start.  ....Model # 185-01 left the factory equipped with the starter/generator attached.

 

Unlike the earlier Bolens Ride-A-Matics where an electric starter kit was available to convert a manual-start tractor to electric-start, no such kit was offered for the Bolens 600, 650, or 750 tractors.

 

If you look at page 7 of the B&S Parts List:  http://gardentractor...0400-to-190499/  you can see the typical brackets and belt pulley used on your existing engine.  ...These parts are similar (if not the same) as those used on the model 185-01 tractors.

 

Your existing 8hp engine needs to have the bosses and threaded holes to accept the starter mounting bracket.

 

Also, not all D/R starter-generators are the same.  ....Some were 6-volt and some were 12-volt.  ....Bolens used the 12-volt models.  ...However, some different brands used starter/gens which rotated in the opposite direction, so make sure your unit is correct for your engine, and has the correct regulator.


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Posted June 06, 2016 - 10:08 PM

Thanks Bruce, Like they say "a picture is worth a thousand words". The diagram you provided shows the setup for mounting the starter/generator and the drive pulley and there are 2 threaded holes on that side of the engine. Looks like I will need to buy parts, IF they are still available?? Any thought's on that? Those diagrams don't really show how those pulleys attach to the flywheel. What I have now is a recoil pull cord with a clutch/ratchet screwed onto the front crankshaft. There aren't any threaded holes in the flywheel for mounting anything. Wonder if I will need to replace the flywheel as well?







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