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#1 glgrumpy OFFLINE  

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Posted May 18, 2016 - 08:27 PM

Good or bad, bought a Bolens QT16 today with a deck. Ruff, won't roll, engine is stuck, rough fitting hood, flat front tire. It has the Onan engine, shaft drive deck. Disc brakes on outer ends of axles, they are rusty, but thinking not sticking on one for sure, other not so sure yet. No knowledge of a valve or button to push to release axle?? Is such thing and where is it?? I don't see the unlocking hub on this one, was told Tube frame for that. Deck has rusty idlers, and stuck, won't swivel. The three spindles seemed pretty good. Two outers are real smooth and glide quite a bit, the center one is not as smooth, but not bad. I greased them when got home, not much diff at this time. One had belt under pulley and had to pry it out. I didn't get the smaller end of the driveshaft that goes on splines of pto on tractor. That gonna be hard to find? There is a New Holland by me with one setting on it and wonder if that is same, will have to look and see if he would sell by itself? Picture of that in the Portland file I posted, setting on the footboard. Will be pulling the tractor from his trailer to mine tomorrow, probly with a come-a-long. Hope it goes OK. I have those castered wheel dollies, but they won't roll over my gate mesh. Might work on the wood decks of trailer. Maybe a plywood on the gate? Here's some pictures:

Is this an odd model, diff than tube frames or others? Will attachments not be same? There is no 3pt, yet looks like axle has the tabs for main arms, don't know the rockshaft or lift items on Bolens yet. I see a lift cylinder on chassis. There was a little lever with ball end on it, poking up from under the seat, right at hinge. Is that release or just a safety switch for seat? It gets pushed when seat goes down.

Deck #'s Model 19210 serial 0500955 Any date on this? Don't have tractor numbers yet.

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Posted May 18, 2016 - 08:34 PM

WOW..what a post..My head hurts..I will be back later Bhahahaha


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Posted May 18, 2016 - 08:38 PM

Deck parts question. One side had these quin links on it. Other side, none, but holes. Should there be some there too? Hard to find? I'll ask seller tomorrow. The angle box has slight play when turned back/forth. Little rumble when turning. Normal, or adjustable, or just bad bearing or parts?

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Posted May 18, 2016 - 09:16 PM

Looks like you got yourself a project tractor there!

This would have been made 1974-1978

 

There's no hydro release on these for "free wheel" just have to push slowly.



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Posted May 18, 2016 - 09:35 PM

Unbolt the gearbox from the mounting plate and clean it out. Easy to do at this point.


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Posted May 18, 2016 - 09:38 PM

Congratulations. Those are good tractors!

 

The QT16 does have a release. If you're sitting on the tractor it would be under your left cheek... Get off tractor and look in front of tire, and slightly up, on the side of the hydro. There will be a toggle like you would use to drain a radiator. Open it one turn only. Any more and it may fall out. Don't forget to re-tighten when you get this running or it will make you crazy trying to figure out why nothing wants to work. :) 

 

The deck hangers should be two sets, not one. Gear box may need a rebuild.

 

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Posted May 18, 2016 - 09:48 PM

Is this an odd model, diff than tube frames or others? Will attachments not be same? There is no 3pt, yet looks like axle has the tabs for main arms, don't know the rockshaft or lift items on Bolens yet. I see a lift cylinder on chassis. There was a little lever with ball end on it, poking up from under the seat, right at hinge. Is that release or just a safety switch for seat? It gets pushed when seat goes down.
 

The Q series is bigger and heavier than the tube frames. I love them. Definite mules. They use their own attachments. Nothing else will work. The mower decks, snowblowers, and tillers are heavy duty. They can also mount a front plow and a 3pth is available. The thing under the seat is a safety switch. There may also be one on the brake pedal.  Paul


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Posted May 18, 2016 - 09:50 PM

I saw that one out of the corner of my eye as I was leaving. Guess I should've turned around and took a peek at it. There is a pressure relief on the left side (from seated position) of the hydro.

The deck parts shouldn't be difficult to find. The gearbox I would just rebuild with new bearings and seals. May also need some shims to set the backlash. Not sure if I'm going back out tomorrow or waiting til Friday and Saturday. If you're still here I'll stop by and take a look.

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Posted May 18, 2016 - 10:27 PM

Now that I'm on the computer and can see the pictures better, your tractor appears to be a QT16 model 1666-05 which would have the Eaton 11 hydro. QT16 models 1666-01 thru 1666-04 had the Sundstrand hydro with the relief valve. The Eaton 11 did not have this feature.

 

The 1666-05 is a 1978 model, which is the last of the QT16 line before they changed over to using the Kohler KT17 engines and the name changed to QT17.  


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Posted May 19, 2016 - 06:27 AM

Now that I'm on the computer and can see the pictures better, your tractor appears to be a QT16 model 1666-05 which would have the Eaton 11 hydro. QT16 models 1666-01 thru 1666-04 had the Sundstrand hydro with the relief valve. The Eaton 11 did not have this feature.

 

The 1666-05 is a 1978 model, which is the last of the QT16 line before they changed over to using the Kohler KT17 engines and the name changed to QT17.  

I have one of those and assumed the transmission had been switched. Learn something new every day. :)  Paul


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Posted May 19, 2016 - 07:46 AM

Glad to see you finally got one,you got your work cut out for you,are a nice machine,good luck,you need anything let me know


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Posted May 19, 2016 - 10:41 AM

Here's numbers:
Model 1666. No dash something?
Serial 0500997. Same 0500 as deck. That year code?
So what I have?

Will be needing front deck shaft quick coupler, not here.
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Posted May 19, 2016 - 11:27 AM

The first 2 digits of the serial number designate the production run. In your case model 1666 serial 0500997 in short = 1666-05. Yours was built in 1978.

The first 2 numbers of the serial number are most important when looking up correct parts for your machine.

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Posted May 19, 2016 - 04:49 PM

Congratulations on finally getting a Bolens! Hope you enjoy it.

 

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Posted May 19, 2016 - 09:36 PM

OK, brought it home tonight. Put air in tires and it rolled easy, what a diff. One front don't hold long, but long enough to unload and move to park some. I greased and oiled up steering and it seems some better, but still tight. I used PBBlaster and then oil over that, might just need to soak. Got power pedal to rock, brakes not loose at all yet. Hit some shafts underneath too. Engine was stuck. So, pulled plugs and sprayed Blaster in the cylinders. One had water ooze out while doing that. Put pipe wrench on the shaft coupler and got engine to turn some. Hit hard spot. Back opposite way, same spot. Worked back and forth, till over that hard spot. Few times around, squirting water and the Blaster out plug holes. THEN, got battery box over to it, and cranked right at selinoid. Starter tried to go, locked a few times. Seemed to stop at same hard spot area maybe? Kept trying, then soon the thing was cranking over many times. Did that a few more times, spraying gunk all over and then quit for night and set aside. Glad to get that good at least. Will be draining case, bet water in there also. Water didn't really look rusty, might be good not dirty?? I have to get key switch, missing. Wire plug looks good, switch gone. Have some questions on the tractor and will put in replies here, don't know how to put posting between pix yet. First, side panels bolted on, why?? They don't seem to be just lift off like cubs or others. I will be taking those off to see much better on things to work on. ON side panels, near the dash is openings on each side and you can see mechanical things thru there. Is that open or should have another panel to cover that? The hood seems to just have slots at front base and they slip over tabs on frame, lift right off. That area on the hood is bent and seems flimsy. Is there a derived repair or reinforcement for that area that anyone can share? Looks like double metal there now, just not enough.

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