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#1 zolt OFFLINE  

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Posted May 09, 2011 - 11:19 PM

Picking up a 116 tomorrow as a parts tractor (needed a transax. for my 111, so today when I took it for spin it impressed me with how smooth everything worked. I was also pleased with the 16 hp briggs, so now I'm thinking maybe I should switch mower deck, seat etc. to this one.But was wondering if the 16 hp is a good motor? (worth playing with?)
Also, steering is stiff, is this cuz of heavy motor or worn out parts?
any opinions?
the hydro is nice, no creeping, smooth, and quiet,
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Posted May 10, 2011 - 06:07 AM

The 16 hp Briggs are good motors, but they do have their quirks. The have a tendency to develop leaky crankcase seals. If it was mine, I would keep the 116 intact and look for another transaxle for the 111.

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Posted May 10, 2011 - 04:39 PM

I agree and as far as the steering...try greasing everything you possible can. Spray the whole steering with spray grease and grease all the fittings. If that doesn't help you might need some thrust (?) bearings. On my 317 the steering was pretty good and I recently drove it in some wet sand and ever since it has been pretty rough, I need to clean it up and re-grease.

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Posted May 10, 2011 - 05:17 PM

As for the stiff steering, remove the spindles from the axles, clean them and lube them. More than likely they haven't seen any attention in years. Keep them greased - they should have grease zerks on them.

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Posted May 10, 2011 - 09:14 PM

thanks,
I just backed it off the trailer, (and went quite nice), and am thinking the same---keep it---it even sounds cool,
funny thing, I thought the 111 and the 116 were the same, but not so, the 116 is taller, and has the air intake sort of like the 332 I use in the city,

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Posted May 10, 2011 - 09:16 PM

I will certainly look at all things tomorrow that could cause the 'heavy steering feel',
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Posted May 10, 2011 - 09:27 PM

zolt, I'm glad you got a good deal. Sounds like you got a keeper there....

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Posted May 11, 2011 - 05:11 AM

Yeah, sounds like a nice one. I never even heard of a 116. Which of course means we would like to see some pics please.

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Posted May 11, 2011 - 06:02 AM

The 116 is of the same series as the 111, which also includes the 108 and 112L. While as the 108 and 111 debuted in 1979, the 116 first appeared in 1982. The frame and the fender deck is the same as a '82 to '85 108/111/112L. The 116 used the same transmissions as the 108/111/112L. Like the 111, the 116 came in 5 speed gear drive model using the Peerless transmission and the hydrostatic model using the Eaton transmission. The hood on the 116 is slightly different than the 108/111 to accommodate the bigger Briggs twin engine, and the dash panel was different as it had some ventilation for the engine cooling built into it. With the 116, JD could offer a 46 inch deck in the lawn tractor line, so the 116 came in either a 38 inch deck used on the 111 and the 112L or the 46 inch deck. With the 38 inch deck, the 116 had 18 inch rear tires like the 111 and 112L, with the 46 inch deck it had 20 inch rear tires. The snow blower and the snow blade that was used on the 111, could also be used on the 116.

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If you want to see one and get more specs, click on this 1985 brochure: 1985 LT & RER brochure - Manuals - Garden Tractor Talk - Forums
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Posted May 12, 2011 - 10:10 AM

I downloaded the brochure and while reading through it saw that the 16 hp only had 5 amp output?
Is this enough to run lights(option), PTO ,,, and charge battery?

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Posted May 12, 2011 - 11:37 AM

In the late 90's JD offered the LT133 and the LT155 with 3 amp systems. I had the LT133 with the 3 amp system and had no problems and headlights were standard equipment on those models. So in lieu of that, I would think the 5 amp system would be fine.

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Posted May 12, 2011 - 12:17 PM

thanks,
I guess maybe the electric PTO does not draw as much as I thought,....hopefully

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Posted May 12, 2011 - 01:33 PM

Considering the 116 is over 25 years old and I haven't heard any complaints, I say it's fine.

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Posted May 13, 2011 - 09:48 PM

I had a 116 gear drive for 2 years, the crankcase seal went out and soaked the belts and the electric pto. Its not that bad to change, a morning will do it. The L-head briggs had lots of power to spare. The only problem I ran into was I added additional lights to the machine for snow removal. The charging system is weak. Anyway the lights would drain the battery and if I stopped the pto I couldn't re-engage it. I would have to back it into the shop and put the charger on it. I ended up switching to LED bulbs. anyway my 2 secs.

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Posted May 13, 2011 - 10:20 PM

As I mentioned in an above post, the crankcase seal has a tendency to leak after a while.

As for additional lights, you can overtax about any lawn tractor's charging system with lights that pull in to much amperage. It's no wonder you drain the battery.




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