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#16 Utah Smitty OFFLINE  

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Posted May 02, 2016 - 12:09 PM

Cool!! Great stuff! It's neat that it's landed back into your possession again.

 

It sure looks like it's solid machine! You'll appreciate it's usefulness. Keep us posted on the engine swap. Looking forward to seeing the direction you go.

Your signature mentions a Bolens 1886 with a V-twin repower... is there a link here that shows what you did to do it?  The info would be helpful if I put the Kohler or Honda V-twin in my machine...

 

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Posted May 02, 2016 - 01:22 PM

Your signature mentions a Bolens 1886 with a V-twin repower... is there a link here that shows what you did to do it?  The info would be helpful if I put the Kohler or Honda V-twin in my machine...

 

Smitty

 

I purchased this tractor from a member on MTF named Steevo. He recently did another engine swap of the same type on an HT.

Here are some links of interest.

 

http://www.mytractor...ld-refresh.html

http://www.mytractor...ngine-swap.html

http://www.mytractor...rrection-3.html

 

http://www.mytractor...surrection.html

http://www.mytractor...aft-length.html

http://www.mytractor...ion-update.html

http://www.mytractor...ing-update.html

http://www.mytractor...%-complete.html

http://www.mytractor...ng-touches.html

http://www.mytractor...-assembled.html

https://sdwike.smugm...ractors-Bolens/

 

http://gardentractor...86/#entry666705

http://gardentractor...oration-photos/


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Posted May 02, 2016 - 03:06 PM

Thanks, Austen!! Some great info there.  Unfortunately, Steevo's posts don't have pictures anymore, but there was plenty of information on the other threads...

 

Smitty



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Posted May 02, 2016 - 03:33 PM

Dear Smitty. 

 

 

 

You have a front end loader.

 

 

 

I hate you

Uncle Willie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously though congrats on bringing her home again. 


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Posted May 02, 2016 - 04:15 PM

Dear Smitty. 

 

You have a front end loader.

 

I hate you

Uncle Willie.

 

Seriously though congrats on bringing her home again. 

 

 

I have 3 plus a backhoe.   :poke:  :poke:  :poke:


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Posted May 02, 2016 - 04:23 PM

Dear Smitty.



You have a front end loader.



I hate you
Uncle Willie.





























Seriously though congrats on bringing her home again.

And Uncle Willy's hate list keeps growing.
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Posted May 05, 2016 - 05:10 PM

Dear Smitty. 

 

 

 

You have a front end loader.

 

 

 

I hate you

Uncle Willie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously though congrats on bringing her home again. 

That's okay... I still love you... :smilewink:

 

Smitty



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Posted May 05, 2016 - 05:16 PM

So, in order to thin the herd, I'm going to be selling all my Ford LGT-related machines and attachments.  All the tractors are in various stages of disassembly, but I have a 16 hp & 14 hp that's mostly complete--1 is an open side, 1 a closed side, plus another frame with wheels and axles from an LGT125, PLUS a front end loader (here's your chance Willie).

 

I'd like to sell everything altogether, but will sell separate.... will post an ad and pictures as soon as I can.

 

Smitty


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Posted May 05, 2016 - 05:37 PM

Well I had to do brakes and U joints on CHerryBerry today. I may have an extra $5


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Posted May 14, 2016 - 11:22 PM

Well, here's some pics of the Bolens when first loaded at the previous owner's, and then sitting on my trailer all week at the house... I couldn't unload her because we had almost a week of solid rain, with several days of rain the following week---quite unusual for High Desert Utah... I was getting so concerned I started taking reservations for passage on the Ark... :smilewink:

 

IMG_20160506_110535_700.jpg IMG_20160507_143726_748.jpg

 

I finally got her off--running on the one good cylinder, and staged her facing the back yard gate.  I put a piece of angle steel on one of the lift cylinders to hold the bucket up.

 

IMG_20160507_170427_345.jpg

 

Anyway, I've looked at my engine options... I have a:

 

Honda 18 hp V-twin

 

Kohler 18 hp V-twin (CH series, not Magnum)

 

A couple B&S 16 hp twins

 

A 20? hp Ruggerini RD200 twin air-cooled diesel.

Ruggerini FRT.jpg Ruggerini 3.jpg Ruggerini 2.jpg

 

A 22 hp Mitsubishi K3D of unknown condition.

Mitsubishi K3D RH.jpg

 

A 20 hp Mitsubishi L3E of unknown condition.

MITSUBISHI L3E LH.jpg

 

I'd like to have the torque and power of the old Kohler K582... so I'm leaning towards the diesel....HOWEVER... although there's plenty of room for the diesel, there are also a couple problems...

 

1.  Ruggerini isn't in business anymore... it was bought out by Lombardini, and may of their designs continued with Lombardini, but then Lombardini was bought out by Kohler.  Although the Kohler single and twin air-cooled diesels are Ruggerini/Lombardini-derived, there is no part interchange that I know of.  The Ruggerini RD200 is in the same family as the RD180/210 etc.  Same block, same head, same crank, just different connecting rods, pistons, and sleeves (and injection pumps in some cases). 

 

Even so, I'm worried about the availability of parts.  Even though the diesel has less than 1000 hours on it, it wasn't maintained very well.  I got it running last year and is smokes a little... perhaps that will go away when it's working hard... don't know for sure.

 

2.  The Ruggerini has a weird European taper on the crank--it's a 1:5 taper and only about 1 1/4 inches long.... it was a genset engine, and the PO got rid of the coupler before he sold me the engine.  If you take a look at my YouTube video... you can see what it looks like. I was able to get a coupler that fits the taper... it's made of a couple of sprockets that are held together with a double row chain... it's a bit worn--can I put a drive shaft and PTO on it, or do I need to make another coupler???

 

 

Anyway... that's my dilemma...  I've priced some small Kubota and Yanmer twin and 3 cylinder water cooled engines on eBay, but I'll be into them $1500-$1700 by the time I get them, then still need to put them in with a radiator, etc.

 

One other possibility is to reuild the Mitsubishi K3D or the L3C that I have, but I've priced rebuild kits... they're in the $1,300-$1,500 range as well...

 

Any suggestions???

 

If anyone has a small, good running diesel, I'm interested... let me know...

 

Regards,

 

Smitty

 

 


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Posted May 15, 2016 - 07:07 AM

My 2 cents is to put in the rugg and use it. It sounds as if it will be the least impact project, the lowest hour unit, and if it all flies apart, you have the least in it.

Besides, it has a cool name :D
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Posted May 15, 2016 - 07:53 AM

My 2 cents is to put in the rugg and use it. It sounds as if it will be the least impact project, the lowest hour unit, and if it all flies apart, you have the least in it.

Besides, it has a cool name :D

I agree with Alan....use the Rugg!  She sounds good, and much simpler to install.  I have a 16hp Yanmar in my loader tractor, and NEVER need all the power it can make.  Usually I'm half throttle while doing any job.


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Posted May 15, 2016 - 02:54 PM

I agree with Alan....use the Rugg!  She sounds good, and much simpler to install.  I have a 16hp Yanmar in my loader tractor, and NEVER need all the power it can make.  Usually I'm half throttle while doing any job.

Good suggestions... $1,500 will go a long way to cover the rest of the repower, power steering, etc.  Plus, being air-cooled means I don't have to mess with radiators, hoses, etc.

 

Any suggestions on the tapered stub shaft on the crank?  I do have the chain coupler--can I put a sliding U-joint yoke on the other side of it, or will I need to make an adapter of some kind???

 

Thanks again for your suggestions...

 

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Posted May 16, 2016 - 10:58 PM

Ok, so this drawing shows a cutaway view of the dimensions of the crank taper on the Ruggerini.  I have a coupler that is a double row chain that connects two sprockets together... not sure if it will work with a drive shaft that has U-joints... any thoughts???

 

Smitty

 

Attached File  Ruggerini Crank Taper Dimensions.pdf   17.41KB   31 downloads



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Posted May 17, 2016 - 01:28 AM

Never used a chain coupler with a u joint.
Do you have room to put a set of pillow blocks an intermediate shaft in there!





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