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#1 tom tractor OFFLINE  

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Posted May 01, 2016 - 08:18 PM

Hello GT Talk crew

 

I have a GT20 that starts funny.  Sometimes when I turn the key I only get the starter making a wizzing sound.  Like the starter isn't engaging with the flywheel = to start the tractor.  It engages and starts the tractor most times but I am worried what exactly is causing the starter to not engage onto the fly wheel?  Bad starter or battery?  The starter looks to be newish (its shinny).  The tractor looks to have been treated very good over its life.  I have owned it for about 10 months.

 

Any suggestions?


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Posted May 01, 2016 - 08:25 PM

Bendix spring not engaging the gear be my guess, try some spray lube if you can get to it, on Kohlers the shrouding can be a PITA, could be weak spring as well, maybe a good cleaning and lubrication will cure it.
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Posted May 01, 2016 - 08:39 PM

If lube doesn't do it, check the mounting bolts to make sure it's snug.

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Posted May 01, 2016 - 10:24 PM

I had the same problem on my CC with Kohler Magnum... the starter shaft was dry as a bone... a little lube and things improved immensely.

 

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Posted May 02, 2016 - 04:23 AM

I'll cross my fingers and try the lube. That would be awesome if something that simple fixed the problem.

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Posted May 02, 2016 - 04:47 AM

Good suggestions above. I had the same scenario happen already when the battery was low. But it doesn't really sound like that for you.

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Posted May 02, 2016 - 06:21 AM

Hi Tom,   Sorry to hear the ole GT is acting up.  I actually had to fix the starter on one of my 20's a couple weeks ago.  It's not an uncommon issue with these kohler twins.  The fix is simple, getting to the fix is a pain!  Basically the engine needs to come out, the starter removed, and a DRY LUBE applied to the starter shaft/gear.  I use graphite based dry lube.  Using a conventional grease seems to attract all the dust/dirt/grass and doesn't allow the starter drive to engage the flywheel.  Good luck!  Warren


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Posted May 02, 2016 - 12:55 PM

Do you think I can lube the starter without pulling the motor? You know squirt wd40 all over the starter area? Do you think it will find its way to where it needs to go?

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Posted May 02, 2016 - 05:47 PM

I really don't think it will work.  The bendix, (starter drive) is on the lower left side of the motor facing towards the rear of the tractor and covered by all the tin work.  I don't see how you'd even have room to get a can of WD40 anywhere near the drive.  Feel free to call me if you have concerns.  Warren



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Posted May 02, 2016 - 07:40 PM

If you drill a small hole in the shroud in the right spot you can lube the starter drive easily. Drill it so a cap from the end of a pen will fit in the hole when done.



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Posted May 03, 2016 - 05:33 AM

If you can - Please give me a specific location to drill the hole. I have attached a photo.

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Posted May 03, 2016 - 05:58 AM

yeah if I ever get back to my GT19 that is only one of the quirks that needs addressed on it.... but that unit is "on hold" for now. even though after not hving had a GT in a few years it was the 1st one that I got, now have 3 of them in various states of disrepair.



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Posted May 04, 2016 - 08:20 PM

I tried spraying wd40 into the starter shaft. I am hoping this fixes the problem. Not to bad after removing the tin shields.

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Posted May 05, 2016 - 06:48 AM

A 'dry lube' would probably last longer, but the WD40 will clean things out some.


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Posted May 05, 2016 - 08:48 AM

A 'dry lube' would probably last longer, but the WD40 will clean things out some.

I would agree with Kenny.  I personally would manually extend/spin the bendix to move it away from the starter, spray some brake cleaner on the shaft, followed with compressed air to clean it.  Then use some dry lube that comes in a spray can (with a spray tube) to lube the bendix shaft behind the gear the best I could.


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