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#1 05f250inmn OFFLINE  

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Posted April 25, 2016 - 03:57 PM

I bought this tractor last year and it runs great but when its running it will shut off for no reason, it can be ideling, mowing, or just driving it. It loses electrical power. When it shuts off I just sit there for 10 seconds or so and the fuel pump will turn back on and it will start right back up. I don't think it is a short because it will do this while ideling not even moving. I had it into a small engine shop and they replaced the regulator, cleaned the carb, plugs and oil changed. Said they ran it and it never did it for them. So I do not have much faith in what they do. Here is a short video https://www.youtube....h?v=nMRzXG2Hgf0



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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:04 PM

That god awful noise before you fired it back up was the fuel pump? If so, is it attached to the grill with a zip tie?

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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:12 PM

It has a circuit breaker on it that is over heating.


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:12 PM

I would look for a weak autoreset circuit breaker.



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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:13 PM

will look like this I believes-l225.jpg


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:15 PM

With the rattle of that fuel pump...there is a chance that it is causing the breaker to trip.



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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:20 PM

Wow this site is awesome. The fuel pump is loud (guessing thats not normal) Where would I find that breaker (location)?

Cat385B no zip ties on the pump but I will look into quieting it down



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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:34 PM

It's under the battery tray. The breaker is working as it should, you have a short somewhere.


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 04:50 PM

electrical is my weaknes. What should i be looking for? Is there a way to test the breaker? If it is a short why would it do it even whike ideling in the garage?


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 05:36 PM

At idle would be the worst, the engine shakes more. As it revs up, it will smooth out and the wire isn't grounding out.

 

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Posted April 25, 2016 - 05:55 PM

The circuit breaker is in the pedestal right hand side same as the hour meter, below the battery and battery pan. I would check current draw of the pump it should not be making a noise like that, so it could be drawing a lot more current than normal and also check the ignition coil look for hair line cracks on the body.

 

There is no easy way to check the circuit breaker unless you build a load center (expensive resistor that can dissipate 25 amps or more of current)


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Posted April 25, 2016 - 06:16 PM

At idle would be the worst, the engine shakes more. As it revs up, it will smooth out and the wire isn't grounding out.

 

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Posted April 25, 2016 - 08:09 PM

The circuit breaker is in the pedestal right hand side same as the hour meter, below the battery and battery pan. I would check current draw of the pump it should not be making a noise like that, so it could be drawing a lot more current than normal and also check the ignition coil look for hair line cracks on the body.

 

There is no easy way to check the circuit breaker unless you build a load center (expensive resistor that can dissipate 25 amps or more of current)

A heavy discharge load can be applied to the entire battery bank(or just one battery)

by simply plugging in and turning on high-draw appliances, especially electric heaters, hair dryers, hot plates, incandescent lights, etc. This is how we tested stand by power supply's when I was on the design team years ago.


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Posted May 03, 2016 - 09:04 PM

I replaced the auto reset breaker and it has run and cut my yard without quiting so I hope that fixed it.What can I put in for a fuel pump that would be quieter?


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Posted May 03, 2016 - 09:14 PM

To check a Breaker just replace it with the same amp Fuse and see if it blows.

As for a pump these work well.






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