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Posted May 10, 2016 - 03:48 AM

I agree, the Ford won't like being hooked up to Cat 1 implements.

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Posted May 10, 2016 - 05:27 AM

:smilewink: Yeah- Thanks for the reality check-  it would be overkill.  I Certainly wouldn't try to do dig in deep with those things.  The Deere can barely handle them. I might just hook up the rockshaft to my current hitch. LOL on the stopping part- my return spring on the hydrostatic foot pedal broke this weekend- the tractor is not doing a lot of stopping at all.  :smilewink:

 

The main thing I was thinking is being able to drag a rake, or eventually getting a lighweight rear blade for dragging gravel and such. I was also thinking that having the class one hitch would be nice to be able to move things about if needed... But no, I would never in a million years consider hooking up the digging bars to the rear box blade!- or even really the box blade. My neighbors with "real" tractors would be laughing at me!!!!!(they already do!)Ha!!!!!!!


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Posted May 10, 2016 - 06:34 AM

That sounds like the best idea, I use my rockershaft to lift my sleeve hitch and it works STELLER! But I also use chains for vertical links, this gives the sleeve hitch tons of float. This I really like. The Tractor always maintains maximum traction..

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Posted May 13, 2016 - 06:26 PM

Thanks for the pic Keith ^^^^

I really cannot get enough of rear LGT 3 point pics! (really!) :thumbs:

 

I like the idea of chains--- however/// I must admit, the cast wheel from my brake has CRACKED!!! - therefore, my only brake is PUSHING an implement into the ground at this point.

 

Safe? No...(lol)

 

anyways...

 

I preface tonight's post with "I kidddd.... I kiddddd...."

Had some time today to try to locate the rockshaft for the LGT. This is with the caveat that it will be USED to lift my homemade redneck two point hitch.

To get an idea of where it would work best- not only for my 2-point homemade, but also for an" appropriate" sized  3 point,I mounted my JD class ONE 3 point to the rear. It took all of 3 minutes to switch it over and put it back. This is because it is the only 3 point I have at the moment... I am sure you understand....(It's in the name of SCIENCE!!!!)

 

YES>>>> I know this is taboo!!!!!

 

But, for the sake of sharing, I thought I'd post some pics of :"how" a limited class one would look on a lgt (editor's note- this is for educational/ entertainment value only!!!!!)

YES- I understand if I hooked my attachments  up to this, the tractor would basically wheelie (if not snap an axle). And, YES, although I consider the LGT tube frame vastly superior to the LGTD deisels that replace the LGT frame, the tube wall thickness(thin-ness) of the LGTS, really became apparently thin when I looked at it...And YES, understand my 23 hp engine pitted against any true class one attachment would be the death to the eaton hydrostatic....

 

So I submit this...

 

And for 80% entertainment value only.....

 

(20%)- why not buy the limitted class one hitch- be cognizant of it- if for no other reason- to have spare parts to replenish the JDx700 if needed......

 

 

 

(Although the devil in me still wants to do it)

Happy Friday!  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:  :wave:

 

p.s..- In my humble opinion, there are several aspect that clearly overpower the LGT, but some other apsects that weirdly work.

please discuss,,,,

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Posted May 13, 2016 - 06:30 PM

And yes... My immediate short term plans are locating the rockshaft for powering my redneck 2 point.... I'm just having fun! :D

Sorta.... :smilewink:


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Posted May 13, 2016 - 06:49 PM

Finally, I would like to add KUDO's for the Allis Chalmers 620? 616? Rockershaft. 

 

THIS.... is a thing of quality and beauty...For several  reasons.

Not only is this robustly built:

The lift arms can swivel to accommodate  lateral offsets to what the drop arms attach to....(pic one)

Also, the lift arms themselves are NOT welded to the round bar. (pic two) They are held in place with keyways...This will let me disassemble it and rebuild it with a center hitch 1 1/8 top hitch to hold the top adjustable bar when/if the time arises....

 

 

The moral of the story is this- If you do not feel the need to have a factory rear PTO- this is a neat alternative which fits pretty darn well. If I hadn't gone V-twin (messing up my ability to fit the factory rear PTO drive in the front)- I would go factory. But this is a pretty cool alternative!

 

 

Which brings me to my Friday night question...

What color should I paint the rockershaft? :D

No- seriously-- do  I...

1. keep thing in line with FORD and paint it BLUE, or even... FORD RED?

 

or..

 

2, pay homage to ALLIS CHALMERS and KEEP it allis chalmers ORANGE?

 

 

These are important questions in the aesthetic theoretical garden tractor world. Please advise!

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Posted May 14, 2016 - 06:03 AM

There's is a Black option!


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Posted May 14, 2016 - 12:57 PM

There's is a Black option!

Ha!  :D



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Posted May 14, 2016 - 01:41 PM

I have one of those out a 716 AC that I have been contemplating using.



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Posted May 15, 2016 - 09:56 AM

Got the rockshaft mocked up. I still need to get some drop links, but the drilled out strips are a good way to get an idea of how long the drop links need to be. Anyone know a good source for  approximately 10 inch drop links?

 

 

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Posted May 15, 2016 - 02:17 PM

Found some spare class-0 top links and used them as drop links. Hefty hefty hefty!!!!!

 

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Posted May 15, 2016 - 06:06 PM

That'll work!



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Posted May 16, 2016 - 10:39 AM

Yup that will definately work!!. Very cool and rugged setup for sure.

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Posted May 18, 2016 - 07:52 PM

Okay- setback.

 

My setup worked fine for the 2 point lift alone, but when I put my rear basket on and tried to carry the trash out to the street yesterday (about 70 lbs tops), it could barely lift the trash can. It could not lift me on the basket when I stood on it leveraged  on the back of the carry all. It can raise me if I stand on the back of the two point lift (closer to the pivot point). I am about 155 lbs.  Basically- now I need to figure out why it doesn't work. It raises slow (or not at all) with weight and drops uncontrollably when I move the lever to lower. With no weight it moves like it should up, but still immediately drops on release.

 

Is it that my leverage ratios aren't right?

Is a pressure relief valve messed up in my hydraulic line?

Is my hydraulic ram bad (It's a spare I bought off ebay) and I never used until hooking up the second hydraulic line.

 

My first instinct was that the leverage ratio wasn't right for the ford lgt ram hooked to the AC rockershaft lever- but it LOOKS like it would work? right? (pics above kind of show it) I can  make a longer lever arm, and I can double the ratio of leverage, but after reading about pressure relief valves and such, I am wondering if there is not another issue at play here. This would never be able to raise much of an implement with a cat-0 three point setup. It can't even lift 150 lbs! Something is not right.

 

I never had this problem when the rear hitch was connected to the main hydraulic mower deck ram mounted mid tractor. It could lift a snow blade, the rear basket, and me on it without so much as a hickup.

 

Thoughts appreciated. 


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Posted May 19, 2016 - 03:40 AM

Yup it will, because of this "leverage" that you speak of. You only have about 500-800 psi to use from the charge pump to begin with. So you must have leverage to overcome this dis-advantage.
I sure hope you paid attention in math class, as your gonna need it now to figure out what you need to modify so it will work. But first you could check your preasures at the cylinder, if yoy are getting between 500-800 psi then your relief and valve a most likely working as they should.
Been there, and done that ...
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