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#1 Bluenoser OFFLINE  

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Posted April 12, 2016 - 09:00 PM

Hey all ,New guy here joining the forum from Saskatchewan Canada. I recently picked up a fixer upper massey 10. It's spent a lot of time sitting but after some carb cleaning/adjusting, oil change and a new battery, I've got it running really well but it's a work in progress. The Tecumseh has been swapped out for a 10hp Kohler which works well, but they cut a section of the grill out on the side to route a loose fitting muffler (going to eventually swap it out for a stack). Also they cut a large square out of the front of the grill for some reason. So I'm on the hunt for some body parts as I fix it up.

 

I am having troubles with the clutch though. I can put it in any gear (1-4 or R) no problem if it's off but if it's running it just clashes the gears. I've also noticed that changing the variable speed lever when in use makes no difference in the speed of the machine so I'm going to try adjusting it this weekend if the weather's good. Wondering if maybe the variable speed system being out of adjustment maybe is affecting the clutch not working properly? 

Anyways here's a couple pics of the rig as it sits right now

 

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Tiller attached

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Mowing deck

 

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Posted April 12, 2016 - 09:06 PM

Welcome to the forum. There should be some Massey guys along to help you out. Have you checked the manual section? There should be one for this in there.


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Posted April 12, 2016 - 09:06 PM

Nice little tractor you have there.
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Posted April 12, 2016 - 09:15 PM

Thanks. I downloaded the manual a couple minutes ago, going to give it a read tonight to see what I can find out in there. 



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Posted April 12, 2016 - 09:20 PM

Looks good,    as for the clashing in the gears it looks like the crank is a little higher and more forward than the original.

I see the belt guard is cut near the engine, the front belt has to be loose when you push the clutch in so the trany can stop rotating so you can change gears.

Hope this helps.


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Posted April 12, 2016 - 09:57 PM

Nice tractor, it even has the optional narrow wheels on it. Nice save. Can't help you out with the Vari drive. The 2 I've had worked great.So I had no need to mess around with them. Good luck.
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Posted April 12, 2016 - 10:15 PM

I would say that DH1 nailed it with the belt guards being part of the culprit. They and the engine position work together to allow the belt to slip at the engine pulley when the clutch is in. Any movement there will cause the gears to grind.

If you monkey with the vari, follow the instructions exactly. Seriously, the forums have lots of comments about struggling... until they read and followed the directions.

Also read up on the shims at the tranny.
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Posted April 13, 2016 - 12:49 AM

Welcome aboard, from one Saskatchewanian to another.  :wave:


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Posted April 13, 2016 - 07:51 AM

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Posted April 13, 2016 - 08:02 AM

Thanks, maybe I'll wait on the vari til I get the other issue figured out. Is there any adjustment in that system or am I looking at getting a slightly longer belt?

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Posted April 13, 2016 - 09:15 AM

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Posted April 13, 2016 - 10:38 AM

Thanks, maybe I'll wait on the vari til I get the other issue figured out. Is there any adjustment in that system or am I looking at getting a slightly longer belt?

You may be able to add shims to the rear pulley and gain a little.
Adjustment should've been at time of engine placement.
As for different belt, these are special. Odd angle. Only OEM or direct replacement work from all reports.

Push clutch all the way in and see what slack you have at the engine.
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Posted April 13, 2016 - 11:27 AM

With clutch in everything is still turning, all the way back to the drive pulley on the trans

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Posted April 13, 2016 - 02:03 PM

Clutch pressed the main belt is just loose enough I could turn it off the pulley if needed. Here's how much slack it has without clutch pressed with vari- lever in park.

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Posted April 13, 2016 - 02:17 PM

And just out of curiosity I slipped the brake band off and have full working clutch. So I guess I need to adjust the brake to get more movement in the clutch?




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