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Posted May 04, 2011 - 03:55 PM

Can anyone tell me what the difference is in the length and width dimensions of the mounting base between a 12, 14 and 16 HP Kohler engines ?

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Posted May 04, 2011 - 08:25 PM

I know I could be wrong on this but I am pretty sure the 12 and 14 have the same mounting dimensions, the flywheel is a good bit bigger on the 14. Hopefully someone with more experience with the Kohlers can give you better information. I never had a 16hp Kohler so I can't say with that one.
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Posted May 05, 2011 - 01:59 PM

Thanks George
I was hoping someone could tell me the dimensions of the mounting base on the three different engines.

It turns out the stock engine on the Ridemaster cart isn't going to work out.
It only has 6HP and I've discovered that hydrostatic transmission sucks up a lot of the horse power off an engine.
I want to switch to a higher horse power engine but it has to be able to have a drive shaft mounted on the front of it to accept the drive pulley.
I have an old 16HP Briggs & Stratton engine with a shaft on the front but it is way to big to fit on the cart.

I've found that the Kohler engines have a power takeoff shaft that bolts on the front and they look like they are close to the same size ( and shape ) as the Wisconsin engine.
I just need to find out the base size on them so I know what engine to look for.

PS: I noticed my spelling on "information" .. I think my little finger got in the way.

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Posted May 05, 2011 - 02:09 PM

Ray, if it will help. I have a Kohler 12hp in a Cub 122 and dad has a Kohler 7hp in the Ride-A-Matic I can get measurements off of. You mainly want mounting bolt dimensions along with shaft height and shaft end points from the mounting hole locations? I can't promise how accurate the measurements will be but I can get them as close as I can.
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Posted May 05, 2011 - 02:20 PM

The other person you could ask that would definitely know the answer would be Brian Miller at gardentractorpullingtips.com
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Posted May 05, 2011 - 02:32 PM

I figure I need at least a 12HP to compensate for the hydro.
All I need is the length and width of the mounting base ( mounting holes or the outside dimensions of the base itself ) whatever is easier to get.
The shaft height doesn't matter.

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Posted May 05, 2011 - 02:36 PM

I figure I need at least a 12HP to compensate for the hydro.
All I need is the length and width of the mounting base ( mounting holes or the outside dimensions of the base itself ) whatever is easier to get.
The shaft height doesn't matter.


Ok, I will get some measurements when I get home from work.
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Posted May 05, 2011 - 03:08 PM

Can anyone tell me what the difference is in the length and width dimensions of the mounting base between a 12, 14 and 16 HP Kohler engines ?

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Ray,want series engine are you looking at ? Wheel Horse uses a different pan than a John Deere, so the mounting base will be different on each horse power for the different style pans.. I have 12,14 and 16 Kohlers on W.H. that I can measure for you..
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Posted May 05, 2011 - 05:48 PM

That would be great, Brian.

I believe the engines I'm interested in are a "K" series ?
They look like this ( some have a shaft out the back and some don't )

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If you can measure the width of the base from side to side and the depth of the base from front to back, that will tell me what I need to know.

It would also help if I could get the height from the bottom of the mounting base to the top of the head ?

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Posted May 05, 2011 - 07:45 PM

Yep they are the K series. Ray I tried to measure the 12hp that is in my Cub 122 but of course it is the one buried in the far corner. I tried measuring it but I can't get in at it right to get you an accurate measurement. I will pull it out of the garage and crawl under it so I can get you a good measurement if nobody else provides one till then.
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Posted May 05, 2011 - 08:17 PM

Ray, The base measures 11 1/2" X 7 1/2", with a bolt pattern of 10 1/2" X 6 3/8", best I can tell. The engine is 18 1/2" tall to top of spark plug. Crank shaft center is 5 1/2" or 5 3/8" from the bottem of pan. I hoipe this helps. These are close, I had to measure with it sitting on my tractor.
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Posted May 05, 2011 - 09:31 PM

Thanks for the dimensions, Brian.
You said you had a 12, 14 & 16. Are those dimensions the same for all three engines or are they for just one of the engines ?

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Posted May 06, 2011 - 12:09 AM

Wheel Horse, Ariens, Simplicity, Massey, JD 200 all use the wide flange blocks
The Cubs, JD use the flageless blocks
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Posted May 06, 2011 - 06:04 AM

Wheel Horse, Ariens, Simplicity, Massey, JD 200 all use the wide flange blocks
The Cubs, JD use the flageless blocks

I'm not familiar with the Kohler engine at all so I don't know what the difference is between the two types of blocks ?
So I did some searching on ebay for Kohler oil pans.
Looks like I'm going to want the style that has the flange ( like the engine in the photos I posted ).
That is if I can figure out what base size will work.

Thanks you for that information.

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Posted May 06, 2011 - 02:01 PM

Thanks for the dimensions, Brian.
You said you had a 12, 14 & 16. Are those dimensions the same for all three engines or are they for just one of the engines ?



Ray, From what I can see, all 3, the 12, 14, and 16 HP use the same wide flange base or pan. I hope this helps...

The engine in the picture is a wide flange pan....
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