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#1 CaptianRon OFFLINE  

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Posted March 28, 2016 - 07:35 PM

Ok I have an old 8 hp rear tine Montgomery Wards Perfectionist tiller that has given me great service up until the tank rusted on me. I removed that tank and grabbed a plastic one off of and old riding mower. Never could get it to run right with that tank on there. Cleaned out the carb multiple times but still no go. It would run 5-10 minutes and then crap out on me. I finally said screw it and bought a new tank just like what came on it new and a new carb.
I've got it to where it will crank and run like a top for about 5-10 minutes again and then it dies. the in line fuel filter looks like it's running out of fuel. It gets about 1/2 full of fuel when it dies.
Anyone got any ideas?

I got the biggest fuel filter I could get thinking it would give me more flow.

Is filter placement an issue? it's right before the carb.
Am I off track and it's something else completely?
I usually don't have issue with these little engines but this one has me ready to give up gardening!!


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Posted March 28, 2016 - 07:44 PM

it could be the fuel filter.

there are two different types of fuel filters.  gravity and pressure types.

the gravity type flows earier

the pressure type is used with a gas pump

 

you need to be using a gravity type.

 

using a pressure type on a gravity type, the gas does not flow as it should.

 

the material in the gravity type filter is courser then the pressure type.


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Posted March 28, 2016 - 07:54 PM

it could be the fuel filter.

there are two different types of fuel filters.  gravity and pressure types.

the gravity type flows earier

the pressure type is used with a gas pump

 

you need to be using a gravity type.

 

using a pressure type on a gravity type, the gas does not flow as it should.

 

the material in the gravity type filter is courser then the pressure type.

Hmmm not sure how to tell if it's gravity or not.  It's a clear plastic filter with paper medium. They were in the lawn and garden section at my local ACE hardware.



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Posted March 28, 2016 - 08:01 PM

B&S fuel fitlers

a red one is for motors with-out fuel pumps

a white one is for motors with fuel pumps

 

check the following site for more info and filter fits each motor

http://www.jackssmal...rt/Fuel-Filters


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Posted March 28, 2016 - 08:07 PM

B&S fuel fitlers

a red one is for motors with-out fuel pumps

a white one is for motors with fuel pumps

 

check the following site for more info and filter fits each motor

http://www.jackssmal...rt/Fuel-Filters

Well bust my freakin buttons!!!! Yep mine is for a pump! Well I think anyway. It looks just like the top filter on your link. That filter doesn't say either way though?



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Posted March 28, 2016 - 08:12 PM

Did you run a new fuel line when you replaced the tank and carb?
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Posted March 28, 2016 - 08:31 PM

did some checking on micron sizes

the B&S red fuel filter uses 150 microns

the white fuel filter uses 75 microns.

 

so the larger the micron size the easier  for gas to flow thru.



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Posted March 28, 2016 - 08:32 PM

Did you run a new fuel line when you replaced the tank and carb?

yep new everything.


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Posted March 28, 2016 - 08:55 PM

since it's all new, take the filter out and connect the hoses. Shouldn't hurt to run it for a bit. It would tell you if that was the fix or not.


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Posted March 28, 2016 - 09:19 PM

Is the vent on the gas tank cap open?

 

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Posted March 28, 2016 - 09:19 PM

since it's all new, take the filter out and connect the hoses. Shouldn't hurt to run it for a bit. It would tell you if that was the fix or not.

will probably do that tomorrow.


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Posted March 28, 2016 - 09:30 PM

Is the vent on the gas tank cap open?

 

Cliff

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Posted March 29, 2016 - 08:52 PM

Turns out it was absolutely the filter. Put that little red bugger on and she started first pull and never died once!!
My first run of the season and look what she done. This long strip is about 100', the patch down closer to the house is about 25' x 25'

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