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#1 jtrojek OFFLINE  

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Posted March 27, 2016 - 04:09 PM

I just traded my Mighty Mite for this R8. It runs and drives but does need some work. The engine on it isn't original, but is a good running model 23, almost identical to the original. It came with the original engine too, but it needs some work. I'll just run with the one that's on there for now. The front wheel weights look homemade, but the guy said he's seen those same crude weights on other Shaws. They aren't like the ones on my R12. Those ones aren't quite so crude. These ones do have faded green paint on them though. Can anyone confirm or deny that they're Shaw? I also know that Shaw often wasn't very concerned about aesthetics. Also not sure what the bigger ones were from, but they were on there too. Anyone recognize them too?

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Posted March 27, 2016 - 04:18 PM

Nice trade,looks good

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Posted March 27, 2016 - 04:29 PM

Sorry, I can't answer your questions, but im sure I speak for many....NICE looking tractor!

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Posted March 27, 2016 - 07:05 PM

Kind of a neat looking old tractor.  May a good parade unit for sure.



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Posted March 27, 2016 - 08:03 PM

Front weights are home made.  Shaw used the same weights on the front and rear wheels.  The larger weights that you have look similar to the weights on  Shaw H3A, H5A, H5X, or H3X walking tractors.  I would need the inner and outer diameter and the bolt hole circle to confirm this. I can take some pictures of both weights  tomorrow.  The R8 is a really nice tractor.  What is the length of your extension housing from the back of the transmission to the differential housing?

 

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Posted March 27, 2016 - 08:36 PM

Not sure if the small weights are Shaw or not, but they were made in a casting mold then someone used a torch to make the center hole bigger and did a bad job cutting neatly.

 

I would love to have a Shaw to go along with my Bush Hog tractors.



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Posted March 28, 2016 - 12:13 PM

Pictures of Shaw weights.  First is the W46 weight for the R-series riding tractors. It can be mounted on the inside or outside of the front wheels, on both the inside and outside (two weights per wheel), or on the rear wheels with the spoke adapters.  53 pounds per weight.

 

Second is the WA40 weight used on the H3A and similar tractors.  14 1/2" OD, 4" ID, 8" Bolt Circle, 40 Pounds. Can be doubled or tripled with longer bolt lengths.

 

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Posted March 28, 2016 - 01:41 PM

The tube going from the transmission to the differential is 13". Those wheel weights are about 14.5" OD, with the centre hole being 4" ID. There are two different bolt patterns on them, with three holes each. The bolt holes are 7" for the smaller in diameter pattern, and 8.5" for the larger pattern that has the tubes welded on. The weights do look the same as the ones pictured though. The previous owner said that someone used them on the outside of the front rims (the smaller ones were on the inside),but that they took them off as they didn't look very nice (though I'm sure they were effective. I can take btter pictures o the weights, if need be. Thanks for all your comments and input so far, everyone!

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Posted April 11, 2016 - 07:03 PM

ctor.  What is the length of your extension housing from the back of the transmission to the differential housing?

 

Cliff

 

 

The tube going from the transmission to the differential is 13".

 

Well, Cliff. You tease us and then leave us hang. What does the length of the shaft tell us? Is bigger better?



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Posted April 13, 2016 - 10:43 AM

Doug,

          The R8 tractors had three different drive tube lengths.  The most common was the 13 inch long cast aluminum tube used in most models.  The R8 has a real tendency to lift the front end when the clutch is engaged.  To help solve this a 20 inch long tube of steel was used on some models to move the engine forward to help get more weight up front.  These models were tagged R8LH.  A handful of R8LHE models were produced in 1952 with the T84 transmission and R7 style clutch housing.  LH refers to long housing and LHE refers to extra long housing.  If you compare the third picture in post #1 and the first picture in post # 18 of HY8A Questions, you will see that the engine in post #1 appears to be closer to the front of the frame than the tractor in post # 18.  These both have the same housing, so the R8 in post #1 must have a shorter wheelbase.  The wheelbase on the R8 in post #18 is 62 inches.

 

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Posted April 14, 2016 - 04:59 PM

Congrats Jamie! I'm really glad you got this one. I talked to Seth about this Shaw and when he mentioned that someone from Canada was coming down for it, I immediately hoped that it was you. His buddy right down the road is the gentleman I recently bought the R6 from that you sent me the link to. I'll post some pictures of that one as well. 

 

Looks like a nice little tractor!

 

Rob


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Posted April 17, 2016 - 08:04 AM

I've always wondered if the inner and outer front wheel weights that are on my R12T are original or not as crude as they are too.

Thanks, Rob

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Posted April 17, 2016 - 08:13 AM

I've always wondered if the inner and outer front wheel weights that are on my R12T are original or not as crude as they are too.

Thanks, Rob

Those look a whole lot like mine, Rob.  They do look homemade for sure, but mine also have old, faded green paint on them that looks a whole lot like Shaw's green paint, matching what's left of the green paint on the tractor.  Tough to see in the picture though.  I'd need to take a better picture to show the paint.  I don't know.  Maybe the fellow made them a whole lot of years ago, bought Shaw green paint to paint them to match the tractor.  

 

Ha!  Seth mentioned something about you as well and I said, "I know Rob!  Great guy!"  Small world.  And, it was a pretty good guess that if a guy was coming down from Canada to buy a garden tractor that it may in fact be me.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who does it, but there can't be very many of us.  Everyone thinks I'm crazy.  


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Posted April 17, 2016 - 03:06 PM

Well, when Seth mentioned "the gentleman is bringing me a Mitey Mite in trade"..that pretty well confirmed my guess. It's definitely a small world in this hobby!

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Posted July 19, 2016 - 05:09 PM

Finall got to putting a quick and dirty paint job on this one. It looks good from far but is far from good. Someday down the road when this paint gets tired I'll sandblast it and do it right. I think the colour is fairly close, but I'll have to think hard about buying that brand again. There are several shades of green on there. It was very hard to get the correct colour consistently no matter how much I shook the can. Not a fan of the brand, but the colour was the closest I could find in a rattle can. Still a little touch up to do and finishing touches (eg. Paint the letters of the emblem and model on the hood). Still need to run a choke cable and a kill switch so I may have to take the hood off again, though I hope not. Regardless, looks better than it did.

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