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Posted May 07, 2017 - 08:31 PM

So....the starter decided to quit on me today. It acted up at Ball Hollow plowday. Now it's done. Considering I have to pull the engine to swap it, I think it's time for a 48 c.i. to set down to add a little more power.

Stay tuned.........

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Posted May 08, 2017 - 06:51 AM

Ouch That Not Good


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Posted May 08, 2017 - 07:06 AM

So....the starter decided to quit on me today. It acted up at Ball Hollow plowday. Now it's done. Considering I have to pull the engine to swap it, I think it's time for a 48 c.i. to set down to add a little more power.

Stay tuned.........

Eric

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Yea, had that happened to me and I had to pull motor. 4 yrs later, I still haven't started it.  LOL


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Posted May 08, 2017 - 07:17 AM

Plan is to have the motor ready for the swap. I can swap them in a couple hours or less.

Went out last night and hit the key again. Sucker decided to work. Still going forward with the swap. It needs more power imo. That 16 is a strong engine but that's a lot of machine for it.

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Posted September 17, 2017 - 07:32 PM

Reviving an old thread here. Pulled the 1655 loader out to take my Deere A out. While driving it back in, it decided to start spewing oil from the breather and points cover. Never seen that before and will probably necessitate an engine removal. Since I'm tired of removing this engine, I luckily found a nice upgrade on Craigslist this weekend.

Nothing like a 13 cubic inch upgrade. Says T260 but it's actually a P224. Same engines, one has points and this one has electronic trigger like other P series. If this does not have enough power for me, V8 is next in line. Hoping this behemoth will fit inside the hood. I have to swap oil pans to the shorter one. The engines are the same front to back and height after pan swap. Only thing is, the 24hp is 3"wider. It gains it's 60 c.i. total from a longer stroke and larger bore. This engine was on a sawmill and doesnt have a ton of hours before a Honda took its place. They like fuel!! Big blocks look cool in anything, right? Installation pics to follow soon.
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Posted September 17, 2017 - 07:33 PM

Another one20170917_202401.jpg

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Posted September 17, 2017 - 07:40 PM

I don't think you'll have much issue on the width, but it will fill the space, and may require a bit of pulling out the width of the hood a bit.   Save up the Kroger fuel points though!


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Posted September 17, 2017 - 07:44 PM

I don't think you'll have much issue on the width, but it will fill the space, and may require a bit of pulling out the width of the hood a bit. Save up the Kroger fuel points though!

I'm not in this for the efficiency and economy. Its all about the power and sound. I'm pretty excited about getting it in there. My main concern right now is the exhaust lining up right. I think the ports are set out wider on this one too. I also really like the muffler on it but doesn't have a place to exit on the stock hood.

Tell Fred, he might want to be behind me at the next plowday.

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Posted September 18, 2017 - 05:22 AM

I have a P220 in one of my FF's and it starts so easily every time.


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Posted September 18, 2017 - 06:35 PM

Well....tinkered a little bit and the B43 is out. Went to drain the oil and lots of gas came out. Explains the oil spewing out the top. Crankcase was full!!! Guessing the fuel pump took a crap. At least the engine is still good. It can go in my collection of them. I think I'm done for the evening. Might pull the top of the 24hp and give it a cleaning. Plus I need to compare the oil pans. They might actually have the same one. If so, Its that much closer to being ready.20170918_193100.jpg 20170918_193109.jpg

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Posted September 18, 2017 - 07:09 PM

Found another unseen problem. Lost a few blades. Luckily, the Massey 14 uses the same fan. I have a parts tractor on the shelf. 20170918_200815.jpg

This must be plowday sabotage!!!

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Posted October 02, 2017 - 08:14 PM

Found a sticky valve in the P224. Went ahead and pulled all the valves for a good polish and lap. Got all the bits and pieces I need to change to make this conversion work. Mainly with the throttle/governor setup. Gaskets are on the way. There was minimal carbon under the what looked like orginal head gasket. Clean standard bore and pistons. Shooting to have it back together by Friday. Maybe back in and running by Sunday. We will see how things go.

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Posted October 07, 2017 - 07:53 PM

Wife went to Garth Brooks with cousins. Kids are all at friends for sleep overs. Just the dog and I tonight. Having a few cold ones while it rains. Also working on the Onan. Got the valves polished, lapped, and installed. Heads and pistons cleaned and new gaskets installed. Things all torqued to specs. I like how the heads have studs instead of bolts. Makes things easier. This engine didn't have a stator under the flywheel. Magnets are there but guessing no need for a charging system on a sawmill. Pulled the flywheel to install a stator. I have a few extras. Shouldn't be long now.
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Posted October 07, 2017 - 07:57 PM

Also, this is the first Onan I've owned with no points. Can I assume the ignition wiring is the same? Looks like it still needs battery power to the coil. Only real difference I see is the magnetic pickup instead of the points for spark. There's no way of producing power for the spark like other breakerless systems I've seen. Any thoughts?

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Posted October 07, 2017 - 08:07 PM

Yes, 12V battery powers the coil.  The pickup ring & module serves as a breaker.


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