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Posted January 12, 2017 - 03:30 PM

Good deal Eric! Once you use it, you'll not want to stop long enough to paint it!
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Posted January 12, 2017 - 04:02 PM

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It runs. Like crap, but it's alive. Definitely need to sort something out on the carb. Regardless, no leaks anywhere. Got most the air out of the system. Heck, it sounds like one of my Case' running. Thanks to the Case hydro setup. This made my day! Still needs tires and I gotta put the shields and hood on.

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Posted January 12, 2017 - 04:11 PM

Awesome man.....I'm happy for you!   :dancingbanana:


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Posted January 12, 2017 - 04:16 PM

WooHoo! Congrats!  :dancingbanana:  :dancingbanana:  :dancingbanana:  :dancingbanana:


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Posted January 12, 2017 - 04:44 PM

I'm contemplating converting this to a Nikki carb. I have 6, yes 6, DD carbs. Can't seem to get anything to work out. I went back to the original one and it idles great. Runs terrible above that. Sprays fuel from the carb throat on anything except idle. The high speed screw has no effect on it at all. I've cleaned the heck out of it also.

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Posted January 12, 2017 - 05:06 PM

I'm contemplating converting this to a Nikki carb. I have 6, yes 6, DD carbs. Can't seem to get anything to work out. I went back to the original one and it idles great. Runs terrible above that. Sprays fuel from the carb throat on anything except idle. The high speed screw has no effect on it at all. I've cleaned the heck out of it also.

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Nikki carbs do SO much better!


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Posted January 12, 2017 - 05:30 PM

I'd have to make the mounting hole for the air cleaner bigger. Can't use the nikki air cleaners since they won't fit in the Massey heat shield.

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Posted January 12, 2017 - 08:49 PM

Just a thought if several carb do not run well there may be something else going on.  Onans do have a problem with manifold air leaks where the seems go together.


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Posted January 12, 2017 - 09:32 PM

That's the first thing I checked for. I may be onto something with it though. I did some float adjustments. Plus I pulled the points cover to check the gap. Started it again after all that and it ran much better. Still some tweaking to do. I'm running p220 heads on this engine so I figured tuning it would be a little more tedious.

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Posted January 12, 2017 - 11:20 PM

Well, swapped to the Nikki carb. Luckily I have a few of those also haha. Runs exactly the same. Clearly I'm fighting the wrong fight here. Few posts back I mentioned messing with the points. Afterwards it ran substantially better. That's where I'm at now. Swapped to the top adjust points and now have no spark. That ended my night. Will come back to it tomorrow. Probably reinstall the side load points and mess with those. I'm definitely earning my loader.

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Posted January 13, 2017 - 02:06 PM

Well, swapped to the Nikki carb. Luckily I have a few of those also haha. Runs exactly the same. Clearly I'm fighting the wrong fight here. Few posts back I mentioned messing with the points. Afterwards it ran substantially better. That's where I'm at now. Swapped to the top adjust points and now have no spark. That ended my night. Will come back to it tomorrow. Probably reinstall the side load points and mess with those. I'm definitely earning my loader.

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Is the lose of fire due to the points not opening or closing?

Is it firing on both cylinders and is the compression good?


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Posted January 13, 2017 - 08:36 PM

Is the lose of fire due to the points not opening or closing?
Is it firing on both cylinders and is the compression good?

I've gone through the engine top to bottom. Of course, with everything I had to do to this tractor, I never really did any fine tuning until now.
One thing I noticed yesterday while messing with the points was the amount they arced. I'm not out there now but after pondering a bit on it, a light came on. I think my condensor failed. The points shouldn't have been arcing that much. I'm gonna head back out in a bit. Plan is to swap some things back to the way they were. I was so frustrated last night, I probably did 10x more things than I needed.

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Posted January 15, 2017 - 12:23 AM

I think the video explains all.
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Mind you, I swapped the carb at least 4 times before I installed a new condensor. Couldn't get to Napa on time so it has a Kohler condensor. Seems to work fine. I'd solved this days ago if I would've just hooked up the spark tester first. A blatant weak spark gave it away.

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Posted January 15, 2017 - 12:27 AM

Anyone had to replace the steering tie rod from the steering box to the center pivot. I'm guessing mines not gonna last long. Doesn't look like the ends are replaceable.
Also have to make this air filter housing fit the nikki carb. The DD has a smaller opening. Guessing I'm gonna use a hole saw on my drill press unless someone has another idea? Wonder if there's a housing of similar size for the nikki carb. I'm limited by the 1655 heat shield surrounding the carb.

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Posted January 15, 2017 - 10:38 AM

Eric, the drag link is surely solid metal, so possibly you could simply cut off the bad ends, then thread the ends to accept screw on ball joints.  Keep in mind it'll need to be the exact same length when finished.


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