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Posted May 26, 2016 - 08:45 AM

Lime, one last thought when you do tear down the hydro and replace the roll pins do NOT be tempted to use one one each side.  Use 2 per side so they can be removed at a later date. The article I wrote is long and it will take longer to read it than actually overhaul a unit. But its from the lessons i learned going through one


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Posted May 31, 2016 - 05:39 PM

Does anyone have any measurements or a source for the roller and spacer (#27 and #28 on agco diagram) for the neutral return. It rides in the slot on the brake side of the setup. Mine never had one. Looks like something I can make. I just don't know what size i need.

 

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Posted June 01, 2016 - 08:09 PM

Well after looking at the linkage setup, I was able to figure out the diameter I needed for the roller. Came up with this.

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Cut from an old crank stub cutting. Just grinded it down a little to fit nicely in the slots. Finished assembling the linkage and now waiting on some replacement isolator mounts from a fellow member.

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Posted June 04, 2016 - 10:23 PM

Little update....

While assembling the engine side I noticed a major issue. The front tab on the engine cradle was broke. Explains a noise I heard before while it was running. Had to reweld that and went ahead and welded the other side some considering they were only welded on one side. Here's a pic.
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Pic of the linkage together and pump in.
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I had pulled the oil pan thinking the sound was a rod letting loose. They feel great. Tore the gasket in the process. Went ahead and cut another since I want to mount this tonight.
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Also, someone had used some rtv on some top gaskets along with the filter adapter. For anyone reading that likes that stuff, the oil pump pickup screen had a decent amount on it that was floating around. Stay away from it.

I was able to set and mount the cradle. Then planned don bolting the engine in. Makes it easier setting the drive shaft since it pivots on the cradle. Getting closer to running and mounting the Johnson loader I have. Let's hope I don't find anymore suprises.

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Posted June 05, 2016 - 07:47 PM

Engine is back in and runs. Still need to sort the choke cable. There's no bracket on the carb for me to attach it too. As you can see in the pic,
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The pump bracket is also attached. This is a pump and mount from a Case tractor. Came off an onan powered machine show other than having to notch for the massey muffler support, was bolt on. Basically I'm adding the Case system to power the loader. I never got a PTO with this machine so it was a no brainner and quite simple, so far.

I ran it without the driveshaft hooked up. So, haven't had the chance to drive it. I just realized I failed to pick up a new hydro filter so driving will wait till tomorrow. Given I get off work in decent time.

Oh, and a little on the engine itself. When I worked on the engine and did the valve lash and decarbon. I went ahead and added some newer p220 heads. That raises the compression a tad and moves the spark plug to the center. What I forgot and realized what my pinging noise was, timing. The b43m calls for
.021 points gap where as the larger b48g calls for less. Somewhere around .017. Given this and the plug being closer to center of the combustion chamber, I adjusted my points to .016. That retards the timing some and made my pinging, aka detonation, go away.

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Posted June 06, 2016 - 07:45 PM

Well....it drove! !!!

Grabbed a filter at Napa on the way home from work. Filled her up and fired it up. Ran through the lifts a few times. Then threw it in gear and away I went. Even got the neutral set good. I'm really enjoying the foot pedal. Can't wait to get the ags and loader on. I had one leak on the hydro pump which I'm not the happiest about but at least everything else works. I'll have to pull the pump again to fix it. I may go ahead and get the loader stuff done. Then fix the leak. Here's a pic with my other 2 Onans.
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These 2 pics ought to give those that avoid Onans nightmares haha.

Eric

PS That little Case 226 has the same engine as the 1655.

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Posted June 06, 2016 - 08:02 PM

Glad you have it moving again. Sucks you have a leak though. Can't wait to follow the loader thread. Good luck
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Posted June 06, 2016 - 08:33 PM

Glad you have it moving again. Sucks you have a leak though. Can't wait to follow the loader thread. Good luck

At this point, I'm just happy to be fully functioning. I can fix a leak. I remember you mentioned that you pulled the rearends and may do the same this time. It was too much of pita to remove it in tractor and then reinstall it.

I can fix that leak with the loader on. Plus I'm tired of seeing this loader on my trailer.

Eric

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Posted June 06, 2016 - 08:58 PM

If your that tired of looking at it, my offer still stands. Lol.
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Posted June 06, 2016 - 10:41 PM

With regard to the RTV chunks in the crankcase.  I recommend an anaerobic sealant that does not setup until oxygen is not available to it.  My choose is LockTite 518.  A must use on transmissions and hydraulics were those little chunks can really screw up a good job.


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Posted June 09, 2016 - 09:16 PM

Well...I wasn't sure where to post some loader pics. Seems this thread is going pretty good and I'm still working on the 1655. So, guess this will also become the loader thread.

Did a little mocking up yesterday. I had some ideas for the mounting and just happened to find a nice piece of channel in my steel stock. Here are a few pics.
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Now mind you, this is just to eyeball and get an idea of how things are gonna line up and what other pieces I'm gonna have to make. Plan is to weld some 4x4 angles to the channel and use existing holes in the frame for the belly portion. I also plan to run a support on each side down the frontend and may also connect them with a piece of strap across the front. Once that's all done, I'm gonna run a couple pieces to the rear to kinda spread the support. Lastly, I'm also going to weld some angle on the ends of the channel to cap and stiffen it and hopefully prevent any twisting.

Didn't work on it at all today. Long day at work.
Started my morning with this.
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And ended up in this trying to head back to the shop.
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Going to Evansville show Saturday, so hopefully I'll get some time Sunday to start cutting brackets.

Eric


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Posted June 10, 2016 - 05:33 AM

It looks good on there!


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Posted June 10, 2016 - 05:04 PM

I won't make the show....gotta work.  Even if I were off, I'd have pasture to mow.

  That loader will fit the 1655 perfectly!  


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Posted June 15, 2016 - 08:15 PM

Well, after taking today off work to clean up some storm damage. I had some time to work on the loader sub frame. Doesn't look like much here but it's progress. I got my cross brace cut and the 2 frame brackets welded on. Still have 2 more set of brackets to cut and weld. Here's a couple pics.
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Next 2 pieces to go on are some 5x2 3/8 thick angle for the end caps and to thicken up where the towers bolt. Should help control twisting. Those center brackets are 5x5 3/8. They should be plenty strong enough. Then I'm going to weld another set 5x2 3/8 to the bottom for bolt tabs where the rear braces will bolt to.

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Posted June 19, 2016 - 01:01 PM

Did some more work on the subframe today. Got the last 2 pieces welded on. Now ready to drill some holes for the loader towers to bolt onto. Then drill for the tractor to bolt to. Here are a few pics.

The first 2 show the longer tabs that will bolt to the frame on each side. I'm hoping to use 4 existing holes to keep from actually modding the tractor much. You can also see the pieces I welded to thicken up where the towers will bolt to and cap the end.
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The next 2 show the pieces I welded on the bottom to give me 2 tabs for the rear braces to bolt too. They also compete the cap/box I wanted to achieve on the ends of the channel. May be a little overkill but at least it'll hold good. These lower tabs will sit under the foot boards and enable me to run some heavy strap. I plan to bolt the straps to the 2 existing bolts where the frame and rearend bolt together.
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The next 2 are the 4 existing holes on each side I planned to bolt this piece to the frame with. I may actually bore a couple of these out to put in a larger bolt for some more strength.
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If anyone has any suggestions on something they see, please let me know. I feel like this is going the right direction. Thanks.

Eric

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