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#1 RAJ OFFLINE  

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Posted March 23, 2016 - 09:13 AM

I am looking at a 782D tractor. I've never had a red Cub Cadet and am interested to know the timeline on when IH went to MTD and CCC. I've also seen and read that there are differences in the rear ends and paint colors (red vs. black) on certain parts. Can anyone give me the basics on the transition from Harvester-built tractors to MTD-built tractors?

 

Another question I have for a Cub Cadet expert is on the chrome hub caps. I have seen the red series tractors with IH logo hub caps, but I have also seen the plain caps on some of the later red tractors as well and was wondering if the optional caps came plain again once the tractors were being built by CCC.

 

The 782D I am looking at also has a plain steering wheel cap instead of one with an IH logo. Would this be original or replaced?

 

Thanks for any insight.


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Posted March 23, 2016 - 01:50 PM

I have owned one in my time, it sips fuel, hard steer, don't like cold starts ( I did the gear reduction starter conversion), hard to find drive line, complex wire harness just to mention a few. Tractor was built in Brownsville TN for one year. You will not find a IH center cap nor International on the dash...hub caps too...all removed after 1981. 1985 IH totally out of the AG business. 31 mm fine spline rear end I think and all aluminum housing. Mine was a mowing machine when there were no issues. Would I own another one? No.
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Posted March 23, 2016 - 03:26 PM

Thanks for the info! I had a hunch that the logos went away once IH sold Cub Cadet to MTD. So plain hubcaps and no logo on the steering wheel would be correct on this particular model, good to know. This one looks like it may have had hubcaps at one time judging by the scratches in the rim, but I don't have much desire to find a set with the logos if I decide to put some back on it.

I was told that the starter had been already upgraded. There is a problem with it getting fuel right now but it did start and run for a few seconds when I looked at it. I will be able to look into it further once I get it home. I plan to use it as a mower also. It came with a 50" deck.

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Posted March 23, 2016 - 08:57 PM

That and IH never built a diesel cub so anything with one is MTD. Im looking at a 1512 myself and while they have there issues like BNK stated i really want one. 782D, 882 and 1512 are all the same tractor.


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Posted March 23, 2016 - 09:51 PM

That and IH never built a diesel cub so anything with one is MTD. Im looking at a 1512 myself and while they have there issues like BNK stated i really want one. 782D, 882 and 1512 are all the same tractor.

I've always wanted a diesel Cub Cadet, yellow or red didn't matter to me. Also thought it would be neat to have any red Cub. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time on this one.

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Posted March 24, 2016 - 05:33 AM

Mine was a 1984; Tractordata says production was 1984-85. 882 is the one year production 1984?. 1512 1985-87. The 782D I had was only a 600 hr tractor when I sold it. I'm thinking it was standard with a dual stick lift and remote outlets on the front...maybe smooth hub caps too but there was a very nice set of IH stamp hub caps on it but was gonna cost an extra $300, they came off. Tractor came with a nice 50" mowing deck. The hard steer issue may have been due to the heavy Kubota power plant so maybe a super steer kit might be a optional thought.

 

I climbed all over the tractor working off a "gig" list that hit my wallet pretty hard, the drive line was the biggest cost for me. Obviously I missed one issue, the PTO on the engine. The new owner called me about a month later and stated the PTO came loose and destroyed the radiator I had reconditioned a few moths earlier. He declined to take any funds to help "lick his wounds", he just wanted me to know, he already knew what I had spent; all documentation stuffed in a nice 3 ring binder with operator, parts and shop manual.

 

Here is a pic of the one I owned. It sold for $2,500 in 2011. That is about what I had in it. Good luck and check it out REAL good before you hand over the cash.  

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Posted March 24, 2016 - 06:00 AM

Thankfully prices have come down and this isn't a reconditioned tractor i don't plan to pay anywhere near the 2,500 mark myself. Usually i would just pay asking price but i don't want to get murdered on this deal so if the number don't work i'm gonna walk away and look for a 1872 or something in that series instead.


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Posted March 24, 2016 - 08:04 PM

I wouldn't pay more than 1800 for a diesel GT. I would pay a little over 2000 for a diesel SGT. Check the rear where they attach to the frame if it wasn't taken care of there will be stripped or broken bolts. They need the fuel lines replaced every so often and also run diesel fuel treatment in it to keep the fuel from gelling up.
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Posted March 24, 2016 - 08:06 PM

By the way if u go the 1872 route, you'll love it and won't have all the complexities of the diesel. An SGT will spoil you especially if your a big guy.

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Posted March 24, 2016 - 10:19 PM

The one I bought has an issue getting fuel from the tank. It will start and run but dies after a few seconds. The guy thought that maybe the fuel tank needed to be cleaned as he said he was seeing black junk in the filter. Is it possible the fuel line is deteriorating and needs to be replaced?

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Posted March 24, 2016 - 11:06 PM

A couple things to look for. There's a little filter screen at the bottom of the tank that commonly gets plugged up by gunk. Many of the smoker guys have purposely removed this screen since there's other adequate filteration. The lines could have gunk in them. You may also want to bleed the system per the steps in the manual. I had a similar problem on my 1572 it would run for awhile and the quit as if I shut the fuel off. That ended up being the fuel pump was intermittently working. If u order any parts showing the kubota part number, get them from a kubota source they'll be cheaper than cubs price.
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Posted March 24, 2016 - 11:08 PM

The one I bought has an issue getting fuel from the tank. It will start and run but dies after a few seconds. The guy thought that maybe the fuel tank needed to be cleaned as he said he was seeing black junk in the filter. Is it possible the fuel line is deteriorating and needs to be replaced?


Sounds like fuel lines are bad.

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Posted March 26, 2016 - 05:56 AM

The one I bought has an issue getting fuel from the tank. It will start and run but dies after a few seconds. The guy thought that maybe the fuel tank needed to be cleaned as he said he was seeing black junk in the filter. Is it possible the fuel line is deteriorating and needs to be replaced?

 

You should post some pictures, everyone loves pictures.


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Posted March 26, 2016 - 08:33 AM

You should post some pictures, everyone loves pictures.

I took some pictures when I went to look at it. I'm planning to bring it home this morning.
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Posted March 26, 2016 - 02:59 PM

Got it home but no time to tinker on it yet. These are tough to move by hand!
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